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Wii U will NOT have a 4870

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This is getting ridiculous.


All Nintendo has stated is that it will have a 45nm R700 GPU. They did not at any point in time specify an RV770XT or HD4870.

They have stated that it will be 50% faster than the Xbox 360 or PS3. If we apply that to the GPU, we see that an HD4870 1GB is 100-200% faster than a 7800GT (used in the PS3). If Nintendo could have claimed 100%+ faster, they would have.

What's 50% faster than a 7800GT? An HD4600 series GPU or an HD4730. Something in the neighborhood of an Nvidia 9600GT or 8800GS.*

Expect a modified 45nm die shrink of the RV730 (HD4650/HD4670) with a small amount of integrated eDRAM and 512-1024MB of VRAM. Performance should be on par to a 9600GT or 9800GT at most.*

It will NOT have an HD4870.




*Using Nvidia cards because most people are familiar with the performance of the GeForce 8 and 9 series cards.
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Which is a bummer, I absolutely loved my 4870, it dominated every game I had at that time and was at a pretty reasonable price
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makes sense since consoles don't really employ AA or AF so less strain on the GPU. Add in the fact most games are 720p so you don't anything near a 4870.
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If this thing isn't even out yet why can't they put something more modern in it? I just don't understand console tech.
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Well, all that's going around now is rumors.

Is that 50% number directly/literally true? They first said it was as powerful.

If it is true, in what context? How can we be sure the 50% is related to the GPU for sure? The CPU is rumored to be a quad core PPC @3.5GHz. That barely puts it over the Xbox 360 (tri core PPC @3.2GHz), so we have to assume that drags the average down (minus a core plus the clock speed and other small changes, say, between 25%-33% rough number pulling guess?), meaning the GPU and/or other areas "may" be over 50% faster on a part by part direct comparison to compensate?

There's alot of variables here. Just like we don't know it is a Radeon 4870, we don't know it isn't based on one percentage number. This thread is honestly just as much speculation as any other. I will say this though. I hope you're wrong. Only 50% faster in the video department is disappointing (even though Sony and Microsoft will likely be higher than this).

Also, a Radeon 4870 is probably more than twice as fast as a GeForce 7800GTX, no?

Here's this from the other thread, although as with all things, take it with a grain of salt.


Edited by Princess Garnet - 6/14/11 at 8:12am
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post
If this thing isn't even out yet why can't they put something more modern in it? I just don't understand console tech.
Me neither, but I know 90% of console owners wouldn't put up with the heat/noise that many PC gamers have from their GPU. Maybe that's why.
   
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makes sense since consoles don't really employ AA or AF so less strain on the GPU. Add in the fact most games are 720p so you don't anything near a 4870.
I think the 360 actually scales up 520p.
    
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Well, all that's going around now is rumors.

Is that 50% number directly/literally true? They first said it was as powerful.

If it is true, in what context? How can we be sure the 50% is related to the GPU for sure? The CPU is rumored to be a quad core PPC @3.5GHz. That barely puts it over the Xbox 360 (tri core PPC @3.2GHz), so we have to assume that drags the average down (minus a core plus the clock speed and other small changes, say, between 25%-33% rough number pulling guess?), meaning the GPU and/or other areas "may" be over 50% faster on a part by part direct comparison to compensate?

There's alot of variables here. Just like we don't know it is a Radeon 4870, we don't know it isn't based on one percentage number. This thread is honestly just as much speculation as any other. I will say this though. I hope you're wrong. Only 50% faster in the video department is disappointing (even though Sony and Microsoft will likely be higher than this).

Also, a Radeon 4870 is probably more than twice as fast as a GeForce 7800GTX, no?

Here's this from the other thread, although as with all things, take it with a grain of salt.



The image screams fake to me. The terminology and which information is included just not what I'd expect from an official document. "Clocked at 3.5GHz"? And why would they include the GFLOPS of the GPU? And using a 32nm process chip would be antithetical to Nintendo's MO of using last-gen parts to keep costs down. In fact I think they actually specified that the Wii U's GPU would be 45nm. And they specified 480i to 1080p. It's a fake.



Yes, everything is speculation at this point, but I'd bet cash that the GPU in the Wii U will be at most an RV740 or equivalent, probably an RV730.
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Me neither, but I know 90% of console owners wouldn't put up with the heat/noise that many PC gamers have from their GPU. Maybe that's why.
My console is louder than my rig.

I still think they should use the latest technology.
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My console is louder than my rig.

I still think they should use the latest technology.

Hmmm, mine's not. Then again I sit about 6 feet from my console and close enough to my PC it can blowdry my fro.
   
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