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It's nice but electric cars are only for short commutes.
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post #32 of 43
Wow this thread...

99.999% of hydrogen that you can buy is made from steam reformed natural gas, it doesn't come from crude oil at all. The hydrogen that comes from cracking high molecular weight hydrocarbons is generally recycled into other processes or burned on-site for energy.

Splitting water molecules through electrolysis requires a ton of energy, and a lot more energy than you get back when you burn it in an engine or run it through a PEM or SO fuel cell. Those videos you see about people online who increased their fuel economy by running an electrolysis unit in their trunk and fed the exsolved hydrogen gas into their car are lying and/or scamming.

Also no such thing as a magnetic drive car without electricity. That's not even physically possible, if you read otherwise its a myth, scam, or just non-educated opinion in the guise of 'fact'.
post #33 of 43
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I think they have their title wrong. A semi-solid isn't a liquid.

It's still amazing, all we need now is more renewable energy. A lot of people forget that electricity still has to be produced somewhere. I'm more interested in sticking it to oil companies.
It's still more efficient to produce the energy in huge, efficient power plants, than in the tinsy tiny, horribly inefficient ICE.
post #34 of 43
The way i see it;

Electric cars are the SSD's of the transportation world. And that would make this the Momentus XT.

Fuel = access time
Long distances = incompressable data?

I thought the whole idea of an electric car was that you didnt need to fuel it. Creating another fuel doesn't change the game unless its much cheaper than gas to make.

They say it is cheaper than battery tech, but over the lifespan of storing/charging/discharging/filtering this electrolyte solution, is it any cheaper than a permanent battery?
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I thought the whole idea of an electric car was that you didnt need to fuel it. Creating another fuel doesn't change the game unless its much cheaper than gas to make.
I think the whole idea of electric cars is that they won't (directly) consume non-renewable resources (like oil, natural gas, etc.). I don't think the motivation of progressing electric engine technology has anything to do with not having to "refuel" them in some way.
    
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post #36 of 43
They need to make electric cars affordable, and if this makes them reliable to go at least 400 miles, before a charge. I see more electric cars being bought.
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we do really need to use direct drive, though motors and electricity, there are so many energy losses in a fuel engine, its quite incredible. plus electric cars boast more torque so with some development could quickly overtake (perhaps litterally ) petrol/diesel cars, its providing that electricity that's the problem. batteries are rather heavy and have a limited life span, plus elements used in them (lithium etc) are not exactly plentiful unfortunately. can't wait to see what we have in the future.
Yes indeed, not to mention you have to have the exhaust system, spark plugs, and a whole other mess of crap that comes along with burning gasoline versus just electric motors at each wheel. Lots of weight, and lots of stuff that likes to rust or wear out.
    
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I mean, how about a link?

How would a magnetic drive system work without electricity, yet provide enough torque to be useful for anything? That's the issue--not because of "opec" or whomever quashing the idea.

I've heard about these things from a number of people at the commune recently. What it comes down to, is the people promoting them believe in perpetual motion machines that produce net positive energy.
Edited by willis888 - 6/14/11 at 4:27pm
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I mean, how about a link?

How would a magnetic drive system work without electricity, yet provide enough torque to be useful for anything? That's the issue--not because of "opec" or whomever quashing the idea.
I'm looking for the link. It was a company in Australia that had a 300hp motor, vid and all and it is gone. Still looking.
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I doubt it... Since you need a load of power to fly huge jets, and that wont entirely be possible unless you make them a giant flying solar panel... Even still, probably not going to happen any time soon.


Yeah, not the best in terms of passengers. Solar panels could still help if used to power the ships electronics though.
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