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I don't get what the issue with letterboxing is. If something doesn't support your aspect ratio, letterboxing is a completely viable solution.

If you have a 1920x1200 monitor, you don't need to downgrade to 1920x1080 to be able to watch movies and play games that only support 16:9. You can letterbox.

The vertical resolution loss is slight, but still noticiable

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Ah...
I wonder if I will notice any difference between my 75Hz and 60Hz downgrade?

But I notice in gaming if I have vsync enabled it only runs at 60FPS anyways.. Even with my monitors set to 75Hz. So maybe there wouldn't be any difference except for mouse trails and video that goes above 60FPS?
Your monitor is probably set to 60hz if vsync limits it at 60FPS.

Do this: Limit the monitor to 60hz from whatever control panel you use, and test it out. Does it feel that bad?
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I have 3 of them in front of me and they're fine. Obviously, if money isn't an issue go for a 1920x1200
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I saw a 70 inch tv with the same resolution, imagine how terrible the pixel density was on that.
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Originally Posted by revlimiter View Post
But I notice in gaming if I have vsync enabled it only runs at 60FPS anyways.. Even with my monitors set to 75Hz. So maybe there wouldn't be any difference except for mouse trails and video that goes above 60FPS?
Disable V.sync in the game and then force it in the NVCP instead.
Games made by lazy developers usually have a 60FPS cap.
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Originally Posted by Lucky 13 SpeedShop View Post
I'm with Eichi-Banzaiii on that.
Just copy paste my name the next time.

LED vs LCD? Ok, bring out the S-IPS...

How to ruin computer evolution:
Limiting resolution to 1080p.
Limiting Hz to 60Hz on PC monitors.
console-tard development.

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I saw a 70 inch tv with the same resolution, imagine how terrible the pixel density was on that.
70' 1080p equal to a 24' with 371p in terms of PPI.
Edited by Ecchi-BANZAII!!! - 6/14/11 at 11:22am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecchi-BANZAII!!! View Post
How to ruin computer evolution:
Limiting resolution to 1080p.
Limiting Hz to 60Hz on PC monitors.
console-tard development.
AGAAAIN with you people.

Nothing limited monitors to 60hz

Nothing limited monitors to 1080p.

It's jsut that the low end ones are that.


"But CRTs could do 2048x1536" - yes, but that was high end. Just like high end LCD can do 2560x1600. "But CRTs could do more Hz" - Yes, but that was somewhat higher end CRT at least, just like you need 120hz LCD monitors and pay extra for them.

You are so ignorant if you remember the good CRT monitors, yet refuse to look at anything above the 200 dollar mark when you judge LCD monitors. That's just willfull ignorance.


Coming from a CRT user.
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Originally Posted by Ecchi-BANZAII!!! View Post
Disable V.sync in the game and then force it in the NVCP instead.
Games made by lazy developers usually have a 60FPS cap.
How do you force it in nVidia Control Panel?

Edit: nevermind, found it
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AGAAAIN with you people.

Nothing limited monitors to 60hz

Nothing limited monitors to 1080p.

It's jsut that the low end ones are that.
No, the mainstream ones are the ones that are at fault here.
If they don't push mainstream monitors for higher resolution we'll never get upgrades.


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"But CRTs could do 2048x1536" - yes, but that was high end. Just like high end LCD can do 2560x1600. "But CRTs could do more Hz" - Yes, but that was somewhat higher end CRT at least, just like you need 120hz LCD monitors and pay extra for them.
A Samsung 957MB isn't a high-end monitor, it's a mid-end one, it was made for cheap so that regular people could enjoy some quality at low cost.

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You are so ignorant if you remember the good CRT monitors, yet refuse to look at anything above the 200 dollar mark when you judge LCD monitors. That's just willfull ignorance.


Coming from a CRT user.
This last part wasn't aimed at me because I have never bought a LCD below 300... My 24' 245B which is an entry-level 24' at the time was at nearly $800 and my 2494HM I bought from a friend cost $439 ($540 new).

Ignorance?
I think you need to realize that that moment the market released the 1080p standard was the moment when they agreed that they'd rather milk out stuff with 1080p rather than further pushing the mainstream resolution and technology further.
They are doing a COD4MW/W@W/MW/M3-scenario.

They keep pushing 1080p into smaller dimensions but aren't releasing 2560*1600 into the mid-end levels, despite seeing 23' 1080p monitors at that "200 dollar" mark, let alone the 1440p monitors.

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How do you force it in nVidia Control Panel?

Edit: nevermind, found it
Did your 60FPS glitch fix now that you use the proper V.sync settings?
Also since we're on the V.sync topic.
V.sync does NOT lower FPS (i.e V.sync on - ~41FPS / V.sync off - ~47FPS). If you see more FPS without V.sync in this similar way it just means that the FPS counter doesn't show frames that aren't even fully rendered, that just means there's 6 garbage frames that doesn't even count.
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A Samsung 957MB isn't a high-end monitor, it's a mid-end one, it was made for cheap so that regular people could enjoy some quality at low cost.
I think you've said to me before that it could do 2048x1536 @ 60hz. Does not apply. My 17" CRT can technically do that as well, but it does not apply because the flickering is visible. I'm guessimating it could do about 85hz at the 1600x1200 mark? Yeah. That's the max usable resolution on it if true. 85hz is the minimum for computer usage on a CRT. If the high resolution is not achieved on 85hz or more, I do not consider the resolution point valid.

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The other part
The mainstream CRT used to be 1024x768. Then 1280x1024. Where's the problem? Mainstream will always be crap in electronics. This is a fact you must accept. To get more, you must pay more.

The fact is, the modern 30" LCD monitors are cheaper than monitors like mine F520 and the FW900 brother used to be back in the day, and can do much higher resolutions. I don't see a resolution decrease nor a raise to a higher price point for high resolution products here either.

Explain your point.


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Not buying an LCD for less than 200 dollars like mentioned
The fact that there are plenty of TN displays that cost so much doesn't mean you can't get equal quality by buying cheaper ones. Overpriced crap will be overpriced crap, but there's always cheaper options in the monitor market.
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I am getting a weird glitch now in Win 7 64-bit when I play games. It gives that noise for plug and play and the screen flashes black and then the mouse resets in the center of the screen. Does this 1x every other second and I can't do anything so I have to hit the reset button. Not sure if that's from forcing vsync in the nVidia Control Panel but I will look into it...
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If the high resolution is not achieved on 85hz or more, I do not consider the resolution point valid.
That's one messed up opinion.
That's like saying that it isn't an overlock unless it has above 1GHz OC.
Also, flickering differs from monitor to monitor. 60Hz on the 957MB isn't a
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Corsair HX1000W Corsair 900D Logitech G500 SARGAS 460 
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Denon AVR-2313 Dali Zensor 7, 5, Vocal 
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i5 3570k 4.2GHz ASUS P8Z77-i DELUXE Corsair Vengeance LP 4GB Samsung 830 256GB 
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Corsair H100 Windows 7 x64 Ultimate SP1 ASUS V248QE Corsair HX650W 
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Samsung 830 Pro Samsung 850 EVO Noctua D15 Windows 10 x64 Enterprise 
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ASUS VG248QE QPAD MK-50 EVGA 750W G2 Frractal Design R5 
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Logitech G502 IKEA Galant SupremeFX -> Pioneer VSX-D711-S 5.1 receiver Dali Zensor 1+SUB E-12F 
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Logitech G27 
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Intel i7 2700k @ 4.5GHz 1.425v with HT enabled ASUS P8Z77-V Gigabyte GTX670 OC Gigabyte GTX670 OC 
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Corsair Vengeanve LP White 16GB Corsair Force GT 120GB WD RED SOHO 3TB WD RED SOHO 3TB 
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WD BLACK 4TB Seagate 5900 LP 2TB XSPC Raystorm D5 XSPC RX480 w/ GT AP-13 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
XSPC RX360 w/ GT AP-15 Windows 7 Ultimate x64 DELL U3011 Logitech K800 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair HX1000W Corsair 900D Logitech G500 SARGAS 460 
AudioAudio
Denon AVR-2313 Dali Zensor 7, 5, Vocal 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
i5 3570k 4.2GHz ASUS P8Z77-i DELUXE Corsair Vengeance LP 4GB Samsung 830 256GB 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
Corsair H100 Windows 7 x64 Ultimate SP1 ASUS V248QE Corsair HX650W 
CaseMouse PadAudioAudio
BitFenix Prodigy Funk Surface 1030 Realtek 898 Pioneer VSX-D711-S 5.1 receiver 
Audio
Dali Zensor 1+SUB E-12F 
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