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post #1 of 10
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Hey –

So right now I have found my weekly thing to obsess about and I am thinking about getting new headphones for gaming. I will not listen to music AT ALL through these cans and would prefer to get a set with an integrated mic, but I can be dissuaded from this.

Right now I have a Razer Carcharias and they get pretty hot and the cloth on the earphones is all linty.

I do not have a sound card but wouldn’t be against getting one, but if I’m not listening to music would I need one?

Another thing I am wondering about is how can I set up my system so I can hear Ventrillo in the headset and have my game sounds come out my speakers (I have the older Bose Companion 3’s hooked up via the line out)

Thanks I would like to spend as little as I have to for a good quality set but would be willing to go up to $150.

Thanks!
post #2 of 10
Far gaming, the AD700 are probably the most recommended headphones out there. They lack deep bass, but since music isn't a factor that shouldn't matter. The only thing that really matters in gaming is the soundstage, which the AD700 excels at. Nearly everyone here will tell you to avoid headsets (with mics) because you're paying a lot more for a lot less. For a mic, your best bet would be to get a zalman clip-on microphone or a desktop microphone.

I would recommend a soundcard (the Xonar DG can be found for $25 and is exceptional for its price), just because it can improve 3D positioning in games (and hey, it'll sound better to boot). Plus you can experiment with features like "Dolby Headphones" surround.

I'm not 100% how you can accomplish the ventrilo thing. If you had two different sources you could just select the headphone source in ventrilo setup, but I don't think you can do that on one sound card. I know you could accomplish this with a USB headset, but I have a hard time recommending one of those. Unless someone can come up with something I'm missing, I think you're out of luck in this area.
post #3 of 10
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How would I go about using a soundcard when my speakers only have a "line in" type connection. Wouldn't I be wasting the abilities of a soundcard?
post #4 of 10
Not sure I understand. If the speakers have their own audio processor I suppose that might bypass the sound card.. but as long as it's passed through an analog output a sound card will improve the quality. Could you try to explain a bit more about how your speakers connect with the computer? I'm not familiar with the Bose companions.
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Not sure I understand. If the speakers have their own audio processor I suppose that might bypass the sound card.. but as long as it's passed through an analog output a sound card will improve the quality. Could you try to explain a bit more about how your speakers connect with the computer? I'm not familiar with the Bose companions.
So my concern, which could be totally based on not knowing what I’m talking about is since I only have 2.1 speakers – am I able to utilize the features of a sound card that can do 5.1-7.1?

I was under the impression that I would need some sort of HD audio connection, optical, etc to use a sound card.

So the sound I get right now from my speakers being plugged into the “green†output on my mobo would be improved with a sound card?
post #6 of 10
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So my concern, which could be totally based on not knowing what I’m talking about is since I only have 2.1 speakers – am I able to utilize the features of a sound card that can do 5.1-7.1?

I was under the impression that I would need some sort of HD audio connection, optical, etc to use a sound card.

So the sound I get right now from my speakers being plugged into the “green†output on my mobo would be improved with a sound card?
Nope, an optical connection would actually bypass a sound card. The "green" output is the analog out, which would be improved by an audio card. Even though the cards can do 5.1-7.1, they still definitely improve 2 channel audio. I'm using my 7.1 DX for headphones and stereo monitors. It improves the clarity and positioning quite a bit.
You would definitely benefit from a sound card.
post #7 of 10
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First, thanks!

Now for sound cards, is it worth it to spend some more money than the DX? How much bang do you get if you spend say $50-75?
post #8 of 10
It all depends on the listener's ears. The ~$90 DX should be slightly "cleaner" than the $25 DG, but it will sound similar. If you want to spend more, the Titanium HD and the Essence ST/STX are aimed at "audiophile" listeners, specifically for headphones. Honestly, I think the DG should be enough. If you ever want more, you can always upgrade.
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Originally Posted by Narzon View Post
It all depends on the listener's ears. The ~$90 DX should be slightly "cleaner" than the $25 DG, but it will sound similar. If you want to spend more, the Titanium HD and the Essence ST/STX are aimed at "audiophile" listeners, specifically for headphones. Honestly, I think the DG should be enough. If you ever want more, you can always upgrade.
I hear that, I'm jsut wondering if I should bite the bullet and get something better now instead of getting the DX then wishing it had something else (that I dont know about now, since I'm a nub) and then having to spend the extra $90 later and then realize I just spent $120 on a $90 sound card.

I'm going to do something thinking and prob pull the trigger tonight on something....
post #10 of 10
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Originally Posted by tats View Post
I hear that, I'm jsut wondering if I should bite the bullet and get something better now instead of getting the DX then wishing it had something else (that I dont know about now, since I'm a nub) and then having to spend the extra $90 later and then realize I just spent $120 on a $90 sound card.

I'm going to do something thinking and prob pull the trigger tonight on something....
Well there's always going to be a better, more expensive component. I still would recommend the DG for a first card. I was able to return my first sound card for a full refund without any problems, so you could try that if need be.

But, of course, the final decision is up to you. Either way you go, I'm sure you'll be satisfied. Enjoy your purchases!
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