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Sorry  I haven't paid attn to the cabinet. I'm attending a conference this week, and my time comes and goes.

I don't recommend the slim types unless they are unavoidable -- and then I'd recommend designing so you won't need them. Too much noise, too little air.

Ok. So the Slip Stream regular ones either 1900RPM or 2000RPM are recommended to run at 5V for the same effect as having a 800RPM at 12V?
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Ok. So the Slip Stream regular ones either 1900RPM or 2000RPM are recommended to run at 5V for the same effect as having a 800RPM at 12V?

Pretty much.
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post #1253 of 2110
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Pretty much.

I can buy these fans: SY1225SL12H-P locally. They're Slipstream but are they the same as SY1225SL12SH? They are rated at 1900RPM both. What is their difference?
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Both the Corsair Carbide 500R and the Zalman Z11 are better choices. I own an NZXT Beta Evo, which I enjoy. But even if I had the room . . . hmm; if I left the roof off the Phantom 410, it would fit . . . I would not use the Phantom 410 in place of my own case. But if I needed to build a new rig to replace my wife's Dell, I'd probably use this case -- because it would cost me nothing except the time needed to mod it, and then it would be adequate to the task.
I was thinking about the Carbide 500R for a little, the price was good as well (about 120€), the same for the Phantom 410.
And then I've read this review:

http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/2620/11-computer-cases-tested-from-p70---p110

It seems for them the winners are the Antec Eleven Hundred and the Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced. rolleyes.gif

I remained impressed of the SilverStone Raven RV03 instead. I always liked its strange, different look but I didn't realize it cool so well.

500

And it costs the same 120 €.
I don't know, the noise level is higher, however I feel I'm attracted by the weird raven.
What do you think? smile.gif
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I would assume that review only used stock fan positions. I bet most of those cases would do better with a well-thought out fan placement. The reason the Raven does so well is because there are no obstructions between the fans and the hardware. Lian-Li was famous for this and they still make some towers that do this, although very expensive.
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IMO any reviews that still think the Antec Eleven Hundred and CM 690 II Advanced are better cases than some of the more recent offerings by other companies are biased, don't know how to configure airflow and give unreliable results. I know it's asking alot to setup each case with the same hardware and then test with multiple airflow configs but that's what needs to be done. Stock fans and their initial orientation (usually really bad negative pressure) will always give mixed results from case to case.

Ok rant over, lol. biggrin.gif
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I like the 690. The two Antecs have top fans only at the back. No thanks.

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post #1258 of 2110
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Pretty much.

I can buy these fans: SY1225SL12H-P locally. They're Slipstream but are they the same as SY1225SL12SH? They are rated at 1900RPM both. What is their difference?


I believe the -P is PWM. That's a good thing.

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I've seen a picture of 2 CPU fans attached via a zip tie, how's that done?

setting up a push/pull for my 212+, and going to remove the top 200 for 2 120's then expierement and try it with the back 120 blocked off.

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Look at my sig, under Ziptie Screw.

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Ok, so what then is your recommendation for the features I'm looking? smile.gif I'm actually gonna be using them on a cabinet (wood cabinet) that's containing my network devices (pfsense box, routers, switches, modems) etc. inside smile.gif It is located near our sala so it needs to be silent but can produce a lot of CFM. I'm thinking two intakes and one exhaust so as to build positive pressure (to avoid dust buildup).

 

OK. Kevin, it's not the positive pressure that keeps the dust out. You keep dust out by filtering your intake fans. If you have all your gear in a cabinet you want to leave the air exit open so the air will flow out. If I had my stuff in a cabinet and if I didn't need to get at my rig -- a remote power switch, for example -- I'd probably pull air from next to the wall. You can use some light gauge nails/long tacks to hold the filters in a way that makes them easy to pull up and clean.The setup would be too ugly to have at the front or the side of your cabinet.

 

So your intake fans would be at the back where you can't hear them. The air would exit from the front, and with no exit fans the noise is minimized.

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