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I like the 690. The two Antecs have top fans only at the back. No thanks.

Yes but notice that it has only 4 front 5,25 bays, therefore you can't add a second front, top (modded) fan if you have a DVD writer and a fan controller.
Would you answer me please what do you think about the SilverStone Raven RV03, is there any way to improve its fans for a better noise level and good air cooling?
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I believe the -P is PWM. That's a good thing.

Ok. Are these fans already tested at 5V though?
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OK. Kevin, it's not the positive pressure that keeps the dust out. You keep dust out by filtering your intake fans. If you have all your gear in a cabinet you want to leave the air exit open so the air will flow out. If I had my stuff in a cabinet and if I didn't need to get at my rig -- a remote power switch, for example -- I'd probably pull air from next to the wall. You can use some light gauge nails/long tacks to hold the filters in a way that makes them easy to pull up and clean.The setup would be too ugly to have at the front or the side of your cabinet.

So your intake fans would be at the back where you can't hear them. The air would exit from the front, and with no exit fans the noise is minimized.

Hmmm, ok. Actually, the cabinet has been operating two years now and my previous setup was two intake fans in the right side (top and bottom) with filters and one exhaust fan in the left side bottom (without any grill) and one left top side air exit hole. I want to replace all the fans since they are cheap fans. So based on my understanding on your recommendation, I only need two side intake fans with filter in the right side and leave the left side with two air exit holes? Is that enough for my purpose?

But positive pressure wouldn't suck in extra dirt from the tiny openings of the cabinet compared to negative pressure, right? That is what I mean by avoiding dust buildup.
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I believe the -P is PWM. That's a good thing.

Ok. Are these fans already tested at 5V though?
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OK. Kevin, it's not the positive pressure that keeps the dust out. You keep dust out by filtering your intake fans. If you have all your gear in a cabinet you want to leave the air exit open so the air will flow out. If I had my stuff in a cabinet and if I didn't need to get at my rig -- a remote power switch, for example -- I'd probably pull air from next to the wall. You can use some light gauge nails/long tacks to hold the filters in a way that makes them easy to pull up and clean.The setup would be too ugly to have at the front or the side of your cabinet.

So your intake fans would be at the back where you can't hear them. The air would exit from the front, and with no exit fans the noise is minimized.

Hmmm, ok. Actually, the cabinet has been operating two years now and my previous setup was two intake fans in the right side (top and bottom) with filters and one exhaust fan in the left side bottom (without any grill) and one left top side air exit hole. I want to replace all the fans since they are cheap fans. So based on my understanding on your recommendation, I only need two side intake fans with filter in the right side and leave the left side with two air exit holes? Is that enough for my purpose?

But positive pressure wouldn't suck in extra dirt from the tiny openings of the cabinet compared to negative pressure, right? That is what I mean by avoiding dust buildup.


Only negative pressure pulls in dust though unfiltered orifices. Positive pressure keeps dust from coming in the cracks. You only need worry about what gets past your filters.

 

Nothing wrong with cheap fans, as long as they perform well.

 

With adequate intake you need not worry about exhaust.

 

Silverstone RV03:

 

I'd rather have an FT02.

 

The back panel fan position is too high; if it had beed set lower it would make a great feed for graphics cards.

 

I don't see how you could change the RV03 unless you cut a new back panel side hole for a fan.

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Only negative pressure pulls in dust though unfiltered orifices. Positive pressure keeps dust from coming in the cracks. You only need worry about what gets past your filters.

Nothing wrong with cheap fans, as long as they perform well.

With adequate intake you need not worry about exhaust.

Silverstone RV03:

I'd rather have an FT02.

The back panel fan position is too high; if it had beed set lower it would make a great feed for graphics cards.

I don't see how you could change the RV03 unless you cut a new back panel side hole for a fan.

Ok. So how many fans is "adequate" for my purpose then?
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Ok. So how many fans is "adequate" for my purpose then?

Only you can figure that out, by experimenting.

 

There are many things we cannot figure out a priori. The Greeks thought they could, and they were wrong. The Romans knew they couldn't, and tried things. They built a huge empire that lasted centuries, and if you count Byzantium, nearly two millennia.

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Only you can figure that out, by experimenting.

There are many things we cannot figure out a priori. The Greeks thought they could, and they were wrong. The Romans knew they couldn't, and tried things. They built a huge empire that lasted centuries, and if you count Byzantium, nearly two millennia.

Ok. Do you have a link where it says that the 1900RPM slipstreams can run easily at 5V?
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Only you can figure that out, by experimenting.

There are many things we cannot figure out a priori. The Greeks thought they could, and they were wrong. The Romans knew they couldn't, and tried things. They built a huge empire that lasted centuries, and if you count Byzantium, nearly two millennia.

Ok. Do you have a link where it says that the 1900RPM slipstreams can run easily at 5V?


No. But I have done it myself. If you have a Scythe fan you have a Molex adapter. You can adapt the adapter to get 5 Volts. I've done it a number of times.

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Just went downstairs and tested

 

SS-1900 #1: 1954 rpm at 12v, 994 rpm at 5v

SS-1900 #2: 1985 rpm at 12v, 974 rpm at 5v

 

Both fans started easily.

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Yes but notice that it has only 4 front 5,25 bays, therefore you can't add a second front, top (modded) fan if you have a DVD writer and a fan controller.
Would you answer me please what do you think about the SilverStone Raven RV03, is there any way to improve its fans for a better noise level and good air cooling?

If you really want the case I'd look into replacing the top stock fan. There's a fan mount on the back side of the m/b. Definitely add a fan there and experiment with intake vs exhaust. Either that or go for one of the Raven series that has three bottom intakes vs the two of the RV03. I've always liked the idea of the bottom to top airflow but never liked how any of the cases looked. That and I wish they would release a version that had two 120/140 fans up top or do away with those vent fins and just have top mesh or something. thumb.gif
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Just went downstairs and tested

SS-1900 #1: 1954 rpm at 12v, 994 rpm at 5v
SS-1900 #2: 1985 rpm at 12v, 974 rpm at 5v

Both fans started easily.

And at this speed they are night silent?

Do this tests come for the PWM 19000RPM also?
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