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post #1401 of 1868
6/14/12 at 6:29pm
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post #1402 of 1868
6/14/12 at 8:52pm
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uhh, your arrows are confused. front right-side, you have an exhaust on the bottom and some
intake (assume its a 5.25" bay fan) towards the top. the exhaust will be drawn to the intake for
sub-ambient air temp. i assume the green arrow on lower pointing up is a side panel fan? good
for GPU, unless the exhaust thing on right kills the flow-path... how much room between CPU
cooler stack and rear case fan? you can remove the rear case fan, trim the grill mesh from that
area and leave it vacant to reduce restriction (mesh) and noise (fan) or make rear fan pull on cooler stack.
last thing is the PSU fan evacuating the stack is good, but is confuses the air-flow whether
to go back or up and air is dam lazy.. tell it one thing and more than likely itll do it, anything else just confuses it to no end. in my opinion.

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post #1403 of 1868
6/14/12 at 9:04pm
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uhh, your arrows are confused. front right-side, you have an exhaust on the bottom and some
intake (assume its a 5.25" bay fan) towards the top. the exhaust will be drawn to the intake for
sub-ambient air temp. i assume the green arrow on lower pointing up is a side panel fan? good
for GPU, unless the exhaust thing on right kills the flow-path... how much room between CPU
cooler stack and rear case fan? you can remove the rear case fan, trim the grill mesh from that
area and leave it vacant to reduce restriction (mesh) and noise (fan) or make rear fan pull on cooler stack.
last thing is the PSU fan evacuating the stack is good, but is confuses the air-flow whether
to go back or up and air is dam lazy.. tell it one thing and more than likely itll do it, anything else just confuses it to no end. in my opinion.
airdeano

Seems like he has two PSUs (bottom right corner). His arrow colors are a bit confusing left of the HSF, but understandable. Overall a straightforward diagram.

I will agree that he should mount his rear fan on his heatsink instead and cut out the rear mesh.
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post #1404 of 1868
6/14/12 at 9:11pm
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Seems like he has two PSUs (bottom right corner). His arrow colors are a bit confusing left of the HSF, but understandable. Overall a straightforward diagram.
I will agree that he should mount his rear fan on his heatsink instead and cut out the rear mesh.

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post #1405 of 1868
6/14/12 at 11:25pm
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uhh, your arrows are confused. front right-side, you have an exhaust on the bottom and some
intake (assume its a 5.25" bay fan) towards the top. the exhaust will be drawn to the intake for
sub-ambient air temp. i assume the green arrow on lower pointing up is a side panel fan? good
for GPU, unless the exhaust thing on right kills the flow-path... how much room between CPU
cooler stack and rear case fan? you can remove the rear case fan, trim the grill mesh from that
area and leave it vacant to reduce restriction (mesh) and noise (fan) or make rear fan pull on cooler stack.
last thing is the PSU fan evacuating the stack is good, but is confuses the air-flow whether
to go back or up and air is dam lazy.. tell it one thing and more than likely itll do it, anything else just confuses it to no end. in my opinion.
airdeano
you got everything right on point. but i don't understand so my PC is not moving air ? i'm new to computers i just recently opened my PC to install that cooler and it took me 5 try's frown.gif i bet it still wrong XD i only opened up my PC about 3 times since 2008
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looks like 2 more fans can fit in there by the cooler biggrin.gif
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when i installed the heat sink i cut lots of things in the PC XD what would you recommend for good air flow ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by ohhgourami View Post

Seems like he has two PSUs (bottom right corner). His arrow colors are a bit confusing left of the HSF, but understandable. Overall a straightforward diagram.
I will agree that he should mount his rear fan on his heatsink instead and cut out the rear mesh.
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post #1406 of 1868
6/14/12 at 11:38pm
No no, your airflow is fine. If your GPU is a reference card, the side panel fan as intake is correct. I would probably leave what you have as is unless you decide to cut out the rear mesh. In that case, I would mount the rear fan onto the heatsink as a pull fan.

If your GPU is not a reference card, consider switching the side panel fan to exhaust and removing the PCI slot covers.
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post #1407 of 1868
6/15/12 at 12:57am
yeah, but there is not frontal access from air to come in..there is a green arrow, but the new pic shows
drives.. lots of drives. no fan i see in there. is the front PSU necessary? that'd be a fine intake port to allow
the lower half air, and have the air exit the pci slots on its own force. the upper fan supplies the CPU.
and disable the rear fan and retest to see if it functioning best for you.

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post #1408 of 1868
6/15/12 at 1:03am
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yeah, but there is not frontal access from air to come in..there is a green arrow, but the new pic shows
drives.. lots of drives. no fan i see in there. is the front PSU necessary? that'd be a fine intake port to allow
the lower half air, and have the air exit the pci slots on its own force. the upper fan supplies the CPU.
and disable the rear fan and retest to see if it functioning best for you.
airdeano

It's fine if he has no frontal air, he still has air coming from the top; his case gives him limited options. But what he can do is some cable management so no cables are blocking airflow from that top fan.

He might not need air from that lower PSU position. If he has a reference card, that side fan would be more than enough. Plus reference cards blow air directly out that small vent out of the case - no need to remove slot covers!

Disabling the rear fan might not be enough to test, he should completely remove it as the fan will restrict a lot of air.
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post #1409 of 1868
6/15/12 at 2:25am
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you got everything right on point. but i don't understand so my PC is not moving air ? i'm new to computers i just recently opened my PC to install that cooler and it took me 5 try's frown.gif i bet it still wrong XD i only opened up my PC about 3 times since 2008 Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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looks like 2 more fans can fit in there by the cooler biggrin.gif
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when i installed the heat sink i cut lots of things in the PC XD what would you recommend for good air flow ?

I still don't get the purpose of the second, bottom ps. To power a few fans only? Your CX500 should be enough for your system.
Because with the front intake fan your airflow will definitely improve.
And I'm too recommending you to cut the rear grill and place the rear fan on the cpu cooler in push & pull. cool.gif
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post #1410 of 1868
6/15/12 at 3:52am
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I still don't get the purpose of the second, bottom ps. To power a few fans only? Your CX500 should be enough for your system.
Because with the front intake fan your airflow will definitely improve.
And I'm too recommending you to cut the rear grill and place the rear fan on the cpu cooler in push & pull. cool.gif

Yeah I was wondering about that as well. Seems completely unnecessary and detrimental to the PC. Servers come with redundant PSUs, but that's not what this PC is. tongue.gif


Anyway, I also suggest cutting away the back grill SuperDeo, it really makes a big difference. You don't need a push-pull config on the heatsink either, if temps turn out fine with just the one fan. I'm fine with just one fan and no rear-grill in my own setup (in signature).

Just remember to take everything out before cutting, as metal dust or splinters is a big no-no for electronics, and wipe the case clean after. And yeah, get rid of that second PSU and install a front intake instead.
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