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post #1611 of 2110
I can't work out whether any part of the hard drive bay is removable or whether those large side panels on the hard drive slots can be taken off. It doesn't look like it from the pics. That's what I mean -- I really like Lian Li cases for their looks but they don't really seem to be designed for air flow. I chose this one because I thought the larger size would at least give me more options and might be inherently cooler. But if someone can recommend something that looks similar, has similarly high build quality but has better air flow for a reasonable price, I'd love to see it. The case is really the last thing in my build that I'm not sure about apart from the CPU cooler.
post #1612 of 2110
Ehume highly praised one of the older full towers by Lian Li, for it's exceptional airflow design. Look it up in this same thread...
post #1613 of 2110
I saw that in the OP, the PC-90. Its advantage and disadvantage seems to be the unusual hard drive mounting mechanism -- along the sides rather than at the front. That solves the problem of air flow being impeded by the hard drive cage but makes it more difficult to access everything else, plus reviews I've read say it isn't compatible with large CPU coolers unless you remove one of the hard drive struts completely (which wouldn't leave enough space for my drives).

It also doesn't have any side or bottom fans. In fact I don't think any of Lian Li's cases have bottom fans and very few of them have side fans. So I might have to look at other manufacturers.
post #1614 of 2110
I think the case I have is cheap and decent enough for your needs...Or even the Haf Xm.
post #1615 of 2110
It probably would be (my current PC is in the older version of the CM 690), but I want something with that minimalistic, brushed metal look like the Lian Li and something that will hopefully last a good few builds.

I've had a better look at the A75X, trying to size up the motherboard and work out where the side fan holes actually fit. It looks like the upper hole is where the CPU cooler will be and the lower hole is where the graphics cards will be, so I should only need one side fan (as exhaust). I think I'll also only be using one top fan (intake), since the back hole looks to be directly above where the CPU heatsink will be.

So I think if I leave the front 140mm fans in, zip-tie a couple of 120mm fans to the hard drive cage (and try to remove some of the bars obstructing the air flow), have one 120mm intake fan on the top hole in front of the CPU heatsink, one 120mm exhaust on the back and one 120mm exhaust on the side (using a 140mm->120mm adapter), I should have pretty good airflow without having to buy any more fans. Or maybe I'll just buy a 140mm side fan rather than use an adapter.

So unless anyone has a better suggestion, I think that's what I'll do. Then I just have to decide on a CPU cooler...
post #1616 of 2110
You should go for that and test some different fan configs...until you see which cools best with lesser noise you won't know which you prefer.
You could also like Silverstone cases or Bitfenix (which have the best stock fans btw)
Do you want a hefty air cooler? I've seen excellent results with the new Zalman cnps9900df, which is only 154mm tall. Should fit in most towers if that's your concern. Either that one or an all in one water cooler, but those can be a liability.

Good luck!
post #1617 of 2110
Haha, I think you've replied to me about this in the Silver Arrow thread. I'm happy to have a big air cooler -- that's one reason why I'm planning to get a big case. As I said in that thread, I'm planning to get a 3770K and would like to get it up around 4.5 GHz on air, so I need something decent. I'm just trying to work my way through all these conflicting reviews about the D14, True Spirit 140, Silver Arrow etc. Here in Aus there's basically $20 between each of those coolers: Silver Arrow > D14 > True Spirit 140 (with second fan) by $20 each. Reviews seem to differ on their respective cooling performance, so I don't really know what to do.
post #1618 of 2110
The Silver Arrow would be a good bet, specially if it comes with the new ty143 fans...they beat the crap out of Noctua's own.
Just by going with the orange fan Silver Arrow you save some bucks on aftermarket fans for the D14 or TS140. thumb.gif
post #1619 of 2110
Don't have SA SB-E but have the SA SB-E Extreme fans.. The TY-143 orange and red ones. Really like them even though I can't use them anywhere near their potential. They are save volume (air & sound) up to 1300rpm as TY-140/141 fans. Above 1300rpm they are amazing! At 16-1700rpm they blow themselves over if not mounted to something. biggrin.gif But can't quite get them to hover. mad.gif

Link to H100 / SA SB-E / SA SB-E Extreme video review
http://www.thermalright.de/CPU+Kuehler/Intel+LGA1155%252F1156/Thermalright/artikel/Thermalright+Silver+Arrow+SB-E+Extreme.html
Jump to 3:40 for results
i7 3820 @4.75GHz
Temperature is delta.

H100 . . . . . . . . 41c 2500rpm. . . . . . . . 55dBA 2
SA SB-E . . . . . . 42c 1000rpm & 1300rpm 38dBA TY-150 & TY-141
SA SB-E Extreme 34c 2500rpm. . . . . . . . 56dBA 2x TY-143

If these specs are true the SA SB-E Extreme is truely top dog in stock form wink.gif
post #1620 of 2110
the lian li is a great case, but most of those hard drive cages would have to go, most likely the bottom two if possible, that way you get the most air to your GPU
   
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