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post #1621 of 2110
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

Don't have SA SB-E but have the SA SB-E Extreme fans.. The TY-143 orange and red ones. Really like them even though I can't use them anywhere near their potential. They are save volume (air & sound) up to 1300rpm as TY-140/141 fans. Above 1300rpm they are amazing! At 16-1700rpm they blow themselves over if not mounted to something. biggrin.gif But can't quite get them to hover. mad.gif
Link to H100 / SA SB-E / SA SB-E Extreme video review
http://www.thermalright.de/CPU+Kuehler/Intel+LGA1155%252F1156/Thermalright/artikel/Thermalright+Silver+Arrow+SB-E+Extreme.html
Jump to 3:40 for results
i7 3820 @4.75GHz
Temperature is delta.
H100 . . . . . . . . 41c 2500rpm. . . . . . . . 55dBA 2
SA SB-E . . . . . . 42c 1000rpm & 1300rpm 38dBA TY-150 & TY-141
SA SB-E Extreme 34c 2500rpm. . . . . . . . 56dBA 2x TY-143
If these specs are true the SA SB-E Extreme is truely top dog in stock form wink.gif

QFT!

I want some of those TY143 fans myself so I can use my ty140's as case fans...
That way I can pump up the rpm when I need to bench @ 5.2ghz or perhaps more! biggrin.gif
post #1622 of 2110
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Originally Posted by ivanlabrie View Post

QFT!
I want some of those TY143 fans myself so I can use my ty140's as case fans...
That way I can pump up the rpm when I need to bench @ 5.2ghz or perhaps more! biggrin.gif
Exactly!thumb.gif

Could use them for case fans too.. puff it up like a balloon! biggrin.gif
My setup now wink.gif


Next is modding case so TY-140 fans fit as front intakes... and maybe even rear exhaust mounted on back instead of inside. thumb.gif
Edited by doyll - 9/27/12 at 8:28am
post #1623 of 2110
Can you mount the Phanteks the other way around, with the last pull ty143 as exhaust or it doesn't fit?
You could use Ehume's scheme like that. Basically your cooling your cpu with warm 'gpu' air tongue.gif
Doesn't sound too cool, though it looks superb.
post #1624 of 2110
Well, been crunching for last 38 hours with CPU running 65-100% with temps 30 and 52c and fans 740-1000rpm. redface.gif. so just warm.. definitely not hot. rolleyes.gif
I Can't make it get over 72c even when I unplugged all the fans and left it for 2 hours with sides on crunching as fast as it would crunch.. 2x handbrake running encodes at same time so 95-100% load.. Darn thing just won't get hot!!. madsmiley.png
An as image shows GPU is passive cooling so having airflow bottom to top is ideal. thumb.gif

But biggest reasons for vertical are cooler face area/fan versus rear vent size.. 140mm cooler and 120mm vent. And I would have had to put fans in middle back instead of front middle as case is not big enough for 32mm RAM and 140mm fan to fit. wink.gif
Edited by doyll - 9/29/12 at 11:46pm
post #1625 of 2110
Yeah, it's a great setup. Plus it's just a 5770, nothing too hot per se...
I like they way you set it up and the color scheme tongue.gif
Those ty143 were meant to be lol

EDIT: I want 3 of those frown.gif
post #1626 of 2110
I am running this setup in my Rosewill Blackhawk case. Top and bottom fans are 140mm, all others are 120mm.

2 -120mm Lepa Casino 1Cs in the front as intake (they blow through the drive cages)
2 -140mm Rosewill Hypoborea fans exhausting up top (should I turn these to intake to increase case pressure???)
1 - 120mm Cooler Master fan that can with the EVO as case exhaust (remove this???)
1 - 140mm Rosewill 4LED case fan on bottom of the case, set to intake
2 - 120mm Gentle Typhoon AP15s mounted push/pull on a CM212EVO (cooler is vertically mounted)
PSU upside down in bottom of case exhausting

Only the top two Hypoboreas and the rear case fan are speed controlled. I need a 3 wire Y cable to split out the AP15s and use voltage control on the mobo to control speed on them.

Now this case has a LOT of mesh, and even the rear slot covers are slotted to allow air to pass out.

Side fan is removed, as it hits the CM212EVO. I may try and horizontally mount the EVO and see if I can put another 120mm fan set to intake on the side door. My concern is that it will block RAM slots in that config.

Also thought about trying to remove part of the drive bay, as I only have an SSD and a 1TB drive mounted, to allow the Lepa Casinos to blow harder into the case, as the drive bay breaks up the stream of air.

As for mounting a fan in the optical drive bays - how? Velcro?

Check out the pic - suggestions welcome thumb.gif

post #1627 of 2110
I use that sticky foam you use to seal off doors...put the fan in there and surround it with foam. It should stay there, pressure mounted, and thus avoiding vibration noises.
post #1628 of 2110
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Originally Posted by rayzzr View Post

I am running this setup in my Rosewill Blackhawk case. Top and bottom fans are 140mm, all others are 120mm.
2 -120mm Lepa Casino 1Cs in the front as intake (they blow through the drive cages)
2 -140mm Rosewill Hypoborea fans exhausting up top (should I turn these to intake to increase case pressure???)
1 - 120mm Cooler Master fan that can with the EVO as case exhaust (remove this???)
1 - 140mm Rosewill 4LED case fan on bottom of the case, set to intake
2 - 120mm Gentle Typhoon AP15s mounted push/pull on a CM212EVO (cooler is vertically mounted)
PSU upside down in bottom of case exhausting
Only the top two Hypoboreas and the rear case fan are speed controlled. I need a 3 wire Y cable to split out the AP15s and use voltage control on the mobo to control speed on them.
Now this case has a LOT of mesh, and even the rear slot covers are slotted to allow air to pass out.
Side fan is removed, as it hits the CM212EVO. I may try and horizontally mount the EVO and see if I can put another 120mm fan set to intake on the side door. My concern is that it will block RAM slots in that config.
Also thought about trying to remove part of the drive bay, as I only have an SSD and a 1TB drive mounted, to allow the Lepa Casinos to blow harder into the case, as the drive bay breaks up the stream of air.
As for mounting a fan in the optical drive bays - how? Velcro?
Check out the pic - suggestions welcome thumb.gif
*2x 120mm front intake; as you say, HDD cage blocks over half of potential airflow. Unfortunately only one side is designed to come off so would require major modding to get good airflow. frown.gif
*2x 140mm top; case is so full of holes now exhaust fans needed. wink.gif I suggest unplug and/or remove.
*Intake fan in optical bay as ivanlabrie said; or fan can be wedged with most any foam you have laying around.
*Drawing shows PSU fan as exhaust; Unless you reversed your PSU fan it's intake and exhaust is out back of PSU wink.gif
*Drawing shows cooler horizontal and you say its vertical??

After reading a couple case review.
Basic design has so much potential and they did a complete fustercluck with the HDD cage design, bottom filter, 2x 120mm front & 1x 140mm bottom intakes with 2x 140mm top & 120mm back exhaust.mad.gif Is that so case can suck in dust through all the extra holes. rolleyes.gif Could hardly design a HDD cage to be more restrictive of intake airflow. mad.gif
post #1629 of 2110
Good news is that HDD cage comes out in three pieces, but the front plate still blocks. The top fans were already set to intake - I installed them in a rush recently and did not think that was the case. I removed the CM212EVO, put a slight bit more TIM on and put it back on, realizing that the mount had more play in it the previous mounting - I think I had the top 'X bracket' was 90 degrees off - it held, but did not pull the heat plate as close to the CPU and the cooler could move around more. Temps are about 5-7C lower now, so good deal. I think I am done for the time being.

BTW, I did pull the rear CM 120mm fan, as the AP15s were more than adequate to exhaust the air.

Hoping with the amount of air I'm pumping in it will be enough velocity to keep the dust blown out.... wink.gif
post #1630 of 2110
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Originally Posted by ivanlabrie View Post

Came up with a new fan layout for my cm690II:
(Still haven't got all the fans...but I made a drawing)



What do you think?

Sorry I've been away for a few days. I have to chuckle because you have essentially replicated the setup in my own case. It sounds as if you have removed your rear grill -- excellent! Removing the slot covers, your 690-II should give you quiet cooling.

 

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Originally Posted by Syllogistic View Post

Does anyone have any experience with fan layouts using Gigabyte Windforce cards? I'm planning to get a Lian Li A75X case:

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You can see from the pics and specs that it has three 140mm intake fans on the front, one 120mm exhaust on the back and space for fans on the top and sides. It's also quite big. The cages won't all be filled -- there will be at this stage 4 x 3.5" drives and 2 x 2.5" SSDs.

I plan to replace the back exhaust fan with a Gentle Typhoon but after that I'm not sure what to do. I'd like to avoid using side fans if possible because the case doesn't come with grilles on the side fan holes, so I'd have to buy them separately. The issue with the Windforce cards is that, as I understand it, they exhaust straight out the side (see this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T33sv9o_lK0). So I'm not sure whether there's any way I can effectively keep them cool and exhaust their air from the case without side fans.

I will be using two Gigabyte GTX 670s with those Windforce coolers in SLI on an Asus Z77V-Pro motherboard with a large air CPU cooler (Noctua D14, Thermalright Silver Arrow/True Spirit or something similar).

I have two other Gentle Typhoons and a few faster Scythe 120mm fans with a fan controller, so I should have more than enough to do whatever I want. Happy to do some simple mods to the case but would prefer not to do anything irreversible -- things like zip-tying some fans to the back of the hard drive cages would be fine if that would be helpful.

EDIT: I should add that I'm open to other suggestions on cases. I have three main criteria: (1) good air flow (for a fully air-cooled system); (2) quiet; and (3) high-quality build with no window but not too expensive (preferably aluminium or full steel). I was originally set on a Silverstone case but, again, my choice of non-reference card came back to bite me on that.

OK. Just read you post. You can get that HD cages out of there. But why? They've clearly gone to some lengths to aereate their HD cages -- much better than most. With three 140mm fan in front, the worst I can say about your choice in cases is that you may wish to replace those fans -- but only after you have listened to them. Lian Li sells pretty bad fans, in my experience.

 

As for the back -- you're getting a Lian Li aluminum case! Take out that rear exhaust fan and let your case breathe. If you really want a finger guard back there, go to Pep Boys and get four nylon #8 nut, and use fan screws and those nuts to hold your finger guard. Like this:

 

 

 

BTW -- Eleven backplane slots?

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