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Been slowly reading through this thread, great resource and an absolute treasure trove of information. Good work guys!

Anyway I have a Corsair 600T SE, I know it's not the greatest case when it comes to cooling but I want to make some slight mods to try and beef it up. Namely putting a fan in the 3x 5.25" bays incased in foam. Also considering cutting a hole in the bottom near the HDD cage, there's room for a 120mm there.

Do you guys think turning the top 200mm fan from exhaust to intake would be a good idea? I'm worried that there'd be too much intake and not enough exhaust, but I also don't like the positioning of it as an exhaust - it looks like it just expels cold air before it ever gets sucked in by the heatsink.

My next question would be if anyone knows of any up to date fan guides. All the guides i've been looking at seem to be totally out of date, ranging from say 2005 to 2008. So i'm not too sure of which fans to purchase to get maximum performance for the 20-30 Db range. Gentle typhoon 1850's or 2150's seem to be the most promising. Anyone have any suggestions or know of any beastly fans?
for the most part, fans don't really change all that much i think. but if you read around people suggest usually a certain few fans that are some of the better ones, the links ehume has are really good

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I have a question about the NZXT Phantom. I recently had:

1 front- intake
2 top - exhaust
1 rear - exhaust
2 side - intake

I switched over the top front 200mm fan to an intake fan and noticed an average 6c degree drop on my cpu and gfx card. I plan on getting a 200mm side fan as an intake as well in a few weeks. My question is, do you think it is best to have that top rear fan stay as exhaust or should I switch it to intake? I am using a Noctua NH-D14 so the air that is being blown in the case from the front/side/top front is being thrown through my cooler and thrown out of the top rear and back.
i would suggest making the front top intake. I know it most likely won't clear your d14 but it will help the front and middle fan a bit. also try and put a fan in the drive bays as well if you can and leave your door open a bit. it helps alot with the intake of cool air

also i have read that the nzxt 200mm fans have the highest cfm although they are not true 200mm
   
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i would suggest making the front top intake. I know it most likely won't clear your d14 but it will help the front and middle fan a bit. also try and put a fan in the drive bays as well if you can and leave your door open a bit. it helps alot with the intake of cool air
Thanks for the advice, I will be trying to get one of my fans to fit in the 5.25 bays. All I have now are 120mm fans that I don't think will get in that bay, but if I can find some way to hold it in place I think it will do. I know you also run your top rear as exhaust. Have you tried running it as intake as well?

I will be taking off the mesh back plate later today and doing some tests also with the temps I get. Hopefully it will help.
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Thanks for the advice, I will be trying to get one of my fans to fit in the 5.25 bays. All I have now are 120mm fans that I don't think will get in that bay, but if I can find some way to hold it in place I think it will do. I know you also run your top rear as exhaust. Have you tried running it as intake as well?

I will be taking off the mesh back plate later today and doing some tests also with the temps I get. Hopefully it will help.
Look at item 10 in my sig. It's all about putting a 120mm or 140mm fan in your 5.25 bay.
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Look at item 10 in my sig. It's all about putting a 120mm or 140mm fan in your 5.25 bay.
Thanks a lot for the guide there. It took me about 5 mins, luckily I had some material lying around. I wont take a picture of it because it's not as neat as you're job, and kind of embarrassing .
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Thanks a lot for the guide there. It took me about 5 mins, luckily I had some material lying around. I wont take a picture of it because it's not as neat as you're job, and kind of embarrassing .
I am shocked that you consider my job to have anything neat about it.
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Wow thank you for the very snappy and informative responses. I guess I'll have to test out different options as far as the top fan is concerned and just see for myself.

It's too bad those guides you linked don't measure static pressure, but all in all very useful stuff. I know that static pressure is usually only of concern when dealing with heatsinks and radiators, but I'd imagine it also helps when there's grills slightly restricting a fan as well.
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Hello

Excuse my english.

I have a Cooler master 840 with a 2600k@4.9ghz with a noctua NH-D14, Powercolor PCS+ 6970 & 3 hard disk

The airflow configuration I have think is




Only fan airflow See Picture

The fan 2 (200mm): I want to try it in intake and off.

Fans 3-5-8-9 are ZM-F3 LED (next nidtec 1850 with led)

http://www.zalman.com/eng/product/Pr...ad.asp?idx=199

Fan 6-7 are nidtec 1850

Fan 4 is a cooler master storm force 200

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/prod...roduct_id=2917

Fan 1-2 are stock fan of ATCS 840 230MM


My ati 6970 puts hot air inside the case.


I put teh PSU face uo because i have my case on the floor And the dust is terrible. My PSU is a Corsair H1000.

What do you think? How can i Improve airflow?

Thanks

Edited by APC - 8/5/11 at 1:27pm
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Have you tried flipping that other top fan to bring in air as well? Another build log I read experienced a good temperature drop with two large top fans intaking rather than one. (This was in a Coolermaster HAF X)

Otherwise, it might help you if you flip your power supply (if you can) so it's intaking from the bottom vent of the ATCS 840 rather than fighting with the graphics card area for air. I saw you said you have a lot of dust but the 840 should have a filter on the bottom and it isn't too hard to clean. Is there anything you can set your case on so it's not directly on the floor?

See how your temperatures look with that other top fan intaking compared to just the front top fan intaking (Testing is always crucial).

It would also help for you to cut out the rear grill on that rear fan position if you can and possibly (Setup depending, as always) remove the rear fan because if you've got a lot of air coming from the front and top fans, the rear fan might actually impeded the escape of air and allow pressure to build up.
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Hello

The problem is that if I use second top fan as intake air I have just a fan as exhaust (the rear fan) and I do not think enough as exhaust.

I agree about cut out the rear grill but I´m not a genius with dremel and I'm a little afraid of the result.

The filter of PSU is blocked by the fan at the bottom.

I have the option to change the Noctua by corsair H100. In that case the two fans above exchange by 3 120 mm fans where the first two sets, radiator and the third to take air out. 3 nidtec would use 1850.
In this case, my question is if the radiator fans get ******* air from outside or from inside the box. If I take air from the outside will better temperatures on the cpu but get hot air in the box. If I take air from the box interiror Do not put hot air in the box but I can break the general flow of air from the box.

As you see it?

Thanks and excuse my english
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Hello

The problem is that if I use second top fan as intake air I have just a fan as exhaust (the rear fan) and I do not think enough as exhaust.

I agree about cut out the rear grill but I´m not a genius with dremel and I'm a little afraid of the result.

The filter of PSU is blocked by the fan at the bottom.

I have the option to change the Noctua by corsair H100. In that case the two fans above exchange by 3 120 mm fans where the first two sets, radiator and the third to take air out. 3 nidtec would use 1850.
In this case, my question is if the radiator fans get ******* air from outside or from inside the box. If I take air from the outside will better temperatures on the cpu but get hot air in the box. If I take air from the box interiror Do not put hot air in the box but I can break the general flow of air from the box.

As you see it?

Thanks and excuse my english
Having a lot more intake than exhaust is the hole idea of a positive pressure air flow design. The air will find its way out through the grafics card and other openings in the case.
    
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