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to be honest, your rear grill is pretty open already... and you removed all of your expansion slot covers so you aren't really having too much air flow recirculation problems IMO. what kind of temps are you trying to achieve?

I'm actually happy with my temps as they are now. This is still without any OC on the CPU though. My wife likes the apartment a little on the warm side (25-26c) during the colder months. I'm would like to free the airflow as much as possible before trying anything. She understands the whole temp issue and then she doesn't, lol.
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well, so long as you understand there is diminishing returns on how cool you can make your system. as you approach ambient temp, it will be harder and harder to reduce your temps. Also remember computer parts DO heat up if you use them. it's designed that way. as long as it uses electricity, it'll heat up so it's abnormal to expect them to stay just a few degrees over ambient when you use the machine. remember, while 60c may seem hot to humans, it's not necessarily hot for computer parts..

current generation humans aren't made from silicon chips:D
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well, so long as you understand there is diminishing returns on how cool you can make your system. as you approach ambient temp, it will be harder and harder to reduce your temps. Also remember computer parts DO heat up if you use them. it's designed that way. as long as it uses electricity, it'll heat up so it's abnormal to expect them to stay just a few degrees over ambient when you use the machine. remember, while 60c may seem hot to humans, it's not necessarily hot for computer parts..
current generation humans aren't made from silicon chips:D

These things I am aware of good sir. I know my rig can take it. biggrin.gif It's fun to see how far I can go with air cooling efficiency in my current case. thumb.gif
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Silverstone is back at it:

Silverstone's Pushes Positive Pressure Cooling

Damn...starting to wonder if I should get a Arc Midi or TJ04-E.
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Depending on how thick and dense the metal of your case is, and how tired you would get, I would say probably an hour or so tops, just for the rear grill, but also set aside time to take your parts out and stuff, if you know what you're doing and the parts inside, shouldn't take that long, maybe 2-3 hours tops for everything, I spent roughly that amount of time using the dremel to cut everything. And having no rear grill lowered my temps by at least a full 3C that was after i let p95 run for a while, at the start of the run, it was lowered by 6C
   
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lol i cut my case with a plasma torch. FTW. took about 2 minutes tongue.gif
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Definitely gong to get a Nibbler soon. Extra cash is pretty scarce for me these days. rolleyes.gif How much time do you think I should set aside to cut out the rear mesh? I can't disassemble my rig when my son is up and running around, lol too dangerous. We don't have a balcony in our apartment otherwise I'd just do it there. I'm stuck leaving the guts on the kitchen table (on an anti-static mat) and cutting in the hallway. frown.gif


15 - 20 minutes, after you drill your hole. Be sure to place your rig with the backplane down and the grill hanging out over a waste basket. Gravity is your friend here. Just chunks falling down -- no dust.

 


 

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to be honest, your rear grill is pretty open already... and you removed all of your expansion slot covers so you aren't really having too much air flow recirculation problems IMO. what kind of temps are you trying to achieve?


Unfortunately, the grill is NOT open. they all have holes that are so small that gentle breezes hardly waft through at all. There is major interaction between the edges of those holes.

 


 

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lol i cut my case with a plasma torch. FTW. took about 2 minutes tongue.gif


And how long for the cleanup? When I removed my slot pillars I didn't disassemble my rig -- I just let the backplane hang out over open air between the halves of my WorkMate. The only bit I removed was the vidcard, and then only because I was removing the slot pillars next to it.

 

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Unfortunately, the grill is NOT open. they all have holes that are so small that gentle breezes hardly waft through at all. There is major interaction between the edges of those holes.

well, as seen in his photo

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the grill on the back of his case is in fact very thin already. in fact with grill that thin, he can easily just use wire cutters to cut them. granted he might need to grind down the rough edges afterwards, but as far as the cutting, it should be easy if he decides to do so. however I wouldn't consider a grill that thin to be much of a problem for recirculation of heat.
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Thanks for the replies. I always like to take my time and go slow so I'll give it an hour just to be safe. I can place my case between two chairs to make the process easier to manage. I'll post pics in a few weeks. Should be able to order the Nibbler by then. I want to go that route over wire cutters for the cleanest cut possible. smile.gif I would like to see something like 2-3c drop in temps. thumb.gif I took some better pics of my current setup with my wife's SLR and will post a couple as well. The holes in the rear mesh are larger than other cases and I can feel a good amount of air blowing out the back of the case. Can't wait to see what happens with the mesh removed.thumb.gif
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even though there are holes, the interaction like ehume said between the edges of the metal is huge, the metal between the holes in the back of my case was really thing too but even then i felt only a fraction of the air that is coming out now, the air bouncing back from the metal disrupts the other air flow trying to go out of the holes therefore creating a chain reaction that disrupts the entire air flow.
   
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