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post #651 of 2110
what you are referring to is called back pressure and turbulence. it does cause resistance to airflow, however, not enough of it to cause recirculation of hot air. according to fluid dynamics, air will seek the path of lease resistance and shortest path. however due to the momentum caused by the noctua fan, there is sufficient pressure to push through what little back pressure is caused by the grill. even if it doesn't, air flow in 3 dimensions. which means any and all area with lower pressure will be a source of exhaust. in this case, it would be the 1st expansion slot just above his vid card as well as the 2 liquid cooling holes that is cut into the case to begin with.

if you look at the grand scheme of things in the way he has his system set up right now, the temp difference in HIS case would be less then 1C whether he cut the rear grill or not.
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I can feel a great deal more air flowing out the tube holes vs the rear mesh. Wish I didn't have to wait so long to get the Nibbler! biggrin.gif Noctua fan? You mean the TY-140?
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Let's say I decide to go for full positive pressure inside my old 690, that's because I have a cf of 6870's when my gpu1 (Msi Hawk) gets pretty hot when fully loaded.
This is my latest upgrade of the cpu cooler and some other fans:

i132584_s6300610.jpg

http://www.xtremeshack.com/immagine/i132584_s6300610.jpg

You can see I have two NOISEBLOCKER BLACKSILENTFAN XK2 1100rpm top exhaust fans.
I did add a shroud (from an old fan) to the R4 rear fan in order to get the fan closer to the cpu cooler (I thougt it will improove the cooler's heat dissipation) smile.gif

http://www.xtremeshack.com/immagine/i132642_s6300610.jpg


Some other pics:

http://www.xtremeshack.com/immagine/i132591_6870-hawk-cfx-02.jpg
http://www.xtremeshack.com/immagine/i132586_s6300618.jpg

And a 92mm 1600rpm kama-flex fan:
http://www.xtremeshack.com/immagine/i132583_vga-rear-fan.jpg

I just wouldn't like to remove the cooler (D14) again since I have reseated it allready three times in a week for better tim spread.
So, except the rear mesh cut what would you suggest me to do with my two NB 1100rpm top fans, now in exhaust position?
I also have a KAMA FLEX 135 - 1600 RPM, 100,5cfm intake fan on the side panel, the lower position. Can I only reverse to intake the first top 140mm fan (the one you suggest) but maintaining the other one as exhaust? smile.gif
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If you want positive pressure airflow flip both of those top exhaust fans to intake. One intake and one exhaust will only circulate warm air back into the case. It looks like your rig is in a very confined space. Or is that your couch? biggrin.gif
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If you want positive pressure airflow flip both of those top exhaust fans to intake. One intake and one exhaust will only circulate warn air back into the case. It looks like your rig is in a very confined space. This could also be why your temps aren't where you'd like them to be. All the hot air being exhausted from the case will be sucked right back in.

Ok, let's do it!
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Ok, let's do it!

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ok guys,
if possible i need a little advise:)
i dont have asmoke machine so cant test it and my fans are all on different places so i find it a little confusing.
i post this already in advance to sorta bookmark the thread:)
i will make some pics now and post them in a couple of minutes.
ill try to make as much as possible.
brb:p

edit:
ok taken a couple of pics.
in first you will see a pic of where the case stands.
dont mind the mess on the desk:p
also see the fan in the bottom, this fan is a 120mm intake.
the hdd is in the middle of the front intake fan so it cools the hdd:)
i think that whas good thinking
450

i strapped all the cables down as it isnt possible to let them go behind the mb.
as you can see i use a custom coller on the cpu wich is a scythe katana3.
i placed it so it blows to the back fan wich is a outtake.
also notice that my psu is in the top of the case with the fan on the downside.
the fan of the psu takes air from the case and spits it out on the back.
450

on the side panel i have 2 120mm fans
one is right on top of the videocard and the other right ontop of the cooler of the proc.
i have the top one as a intake with thoughts its always good to push outside air on the cpu and there is the back outtake and psu outtake fans also.
the lowest one is a outtake atm with the thoughts the front intake gets blown to the vid card(its a longer one so im not sure if the front intake also goes above the vidcard) and that lowest side and the dualfans of the vidcard itself take it out.
450

as last a pic of the back where it shows the 120mm outtake fan i putted there myself and the back of the psu wich also takes air from inside the case.
as you can see all the slots i dont use are closed with the brackets.
450


so do you guys think its okay?
im aksing this as i cant get my proc oc'd more then 3.8 because of heating and ive seen my vid card temps at 81c after a couple of hours gaming wich is to high:(
thanks in advance for youre thoughts.
for complete system specs lok at my sigrig;)
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ok guys,
if possible i need a little advise:)
i dont have asmoke machine so cant test it and my fans are all on different places so i find it a little confusing.
i post this already in advance to sorta bookmark the thread:)
i will make some pics now and post them in a couple of minutes.
ill try to make as much as possible.
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Let us know which fans are intake and which are exhaust. Typically in this thread most of us use all intake and no exhaust. thumb.gif
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Let us know which fans are intake and which are exhaust. Typically in this thread most of us use all intake and no exhaust. thumb.gif

thanks mate,
i think there i a little lag or something in the forum as i edited my previous post with pics and info whats what a couple of min before i could see youre post:s
so as mentioned all info in my previous post;)smile.gif
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thanks mate,
i think there i a little lag or something in the forum as i edited my previous post with pics and info whats what a couple of min before i could see youre post:s
so as mentioned all info in my previous post;)smile.gif

1. Change both side panel fans to intake. You don't want warm air from the GPU circulating back up into the top fan.
2. Cut out rear fan mesh if possible. Air will more flow out the back more easily that way.
3. Remove the water cooling grommets at the bottom of your case. This will allow additional airflow out the back of the case. I did this and it noticeably helped. Refer to my post above for a picture.

Hope this helps! thumb.gif

EDIT: You can remove the unused PCI slot covers as well. Again see the picture I posted earlier for reference. biggrin.gif
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Samsung 830 Series SSD Western Digital Caviar Black Western Digital Caviar Black DVD-RW HL-DT-ST GSA-H60L 
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Thermalright Silve Arrow (TY-140/TY-150) Bitfenix Spectre Pro 200mm Phanteks 140mm Thermalright TY-150 
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Windows 7 Professional BenQ GW2450 Microsoft Sidewinder x4 Corsair HX650 
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Corsair Obsidian 650D RAZER DeathAdder Focusrite Scarlett 8i6 M-Audio AV30 Studio Monitors (upgrading soon) 
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Intel i5 3570K GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD4H MSI R7870 Hawk CORSAIR XMS3 16GB 
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Samsung 840 Series SSD Samsung 830 Series SSD Western Digital Caviar Black Western Digital Caviar Black 
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DVD-RW HL-DT-ST GSA-H60L Thermalright Silver Arrow SB-E Bitfenix Spectre Pro 200mm Phanteks 140mm 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Professional BenQ GW2450 Microsoft Sidewinder x4 Corsair HX650 
CaseMouseAudioAudio
Corsair Obsidian 650D RAZER DeathAdder Focusrite Scarlett 8i6 M-Audio AV30 Studio Monitors (upgrading soon) 
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