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To those that are not impressed, let's not forget this is for the Wii; the next PS4 and Xbox720 (or whatever names they will have), will probably have more powerful hardware as they are designed with different audiences in mind.


PLUS: the AMD GPU they will be using has DX10.1 the .1 makes a difference in better lighting. Since Nvidia boycotted DX10.1 we never got to see how it looked like, except for one of Assassin's Creed's games, that was later patched to remove the functionality (probably Nvidia pressure to do so).

Adding to that, AMD DX 10.1 GPU's have hardware tessellation built in already, so all in all, you do get to have two of the good things that come with DX11.

If they clock this GPU at 1 Ghz (at 40nm it's very likely possible), it will probably have the performance of a Radeon HD6790 or probably even better.
 
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The "generation" of tech inside it is irrelevant. And cross-platform hardware comparisons are meaningless. What a pointless title.
    
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Oh god I need to upgrade before this thing comes out :S
 
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This thread gives me a headache. First, misleading article title is misleading, of course it's going to outperform slaughter the Xbox/PS3. Secondly, Nintendo will not/not have to use Direct X, ever. Neither will Sony. Direct X is just a middle man Microsoft API to allow different card vendors work on PC despite having different architectures. The common ground that Direct X delivers helps developers develop for PC without adapting to each vendor and each of their models.

With that out of the way, this thing is going to kill; there is no doubt about that. But once again Nintendo shot themselves in the foot by screwing over developers. Any third party developer that is making multiple console releases isn't going to go out of their way and make their games look better just for one system, not to mention to adapt to their control schemes. That was the problem with the Wii, nobody was going to make a quality game for the Wii because it took too much time to adapt it to their system. I can honestly see this thing bombing like the Wii via software quality and sales.

Nintendo can sweep up hardware sales like none other, but to me without the software the console is worthless to me. I know a few people that bought the Wii just because it had the gimmicky controller set up. Almost all those people haven't bought more than 5 games, if that.

Sure, my speculation can be wrong; but honestly after seeing the mistakes that Nintendo made the last few hardware releases and seeing them repeat them yet again with a higher price tag, I'll pass.
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Why? 360 ATI had hardware tessellation four years before DX11.
Fixed that for ya.
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This thread gives me a headache. First, misleading article title is misleading, of course it's going to outperform slaughter the Xbox/PS3. Secondly, Nintendo will not/not have to use Direct X, ever. Neither will Sony. Direct X is just a middle man Microsoft API to allow different card vendors work on PC despite having different architectures. The common ground that Direct X delivers helps developers develop for PC without adapting to each vendor and each of their models.

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Nintendo can sweep up hardware sales like none other, but to me without the software the console is worthless to me. I know a few people that bought the Wii just because it had the gimmicky controller set up. Almost all those people haven't bought more than 5 games, if that.

Sure, my speculation can be wrong; but honestly after seeing the mistakes that Nintendo made the last few hardware releases and seeing them repeat them yet again with a higher price tag, I'll pass.
My thoughts exactly

I feel like Sony half-ass did the same with the cell processor architecture that the developers are constantly complaining about. Sure, the power is there, but it's too much of a pain to be utilized commonly, so the 360 wins because of software despite dying constantly. What use is good hardware without the software to use on it?

Really, what good is a console... With no games?

I will probably buy all of them, just because I've done so since I can remember. But I bet I play the newest Zelda and Mario, then it turns into a paperweight for a solid year, and then gets sold on craigslist... Just like my Wii.
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Meh. Still uses last gen directx...
Why does it matter, most of the effects can be easily faked in the older version of DirectX no problem, the change is not that big and probably 99% of the people would never even notice it.

Also, this thing will probably be using OpenGL anyways because its not a Microsoft product.
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Nintendo keeps jumping from one falling branch to the next.

They ditched the "Revolution" because they realized that none of their franchises needed a graphics tweak.

So, to sell their console, now called the "Wii", they relied on a super-low price, old hardware, the fact that consumers would think it is a "current gen" console (which is never was), and the gimmicky controller..

I hope everyone now finally agrees with me that the controller was a huge gimmick that didn't work well for anything but stupid kiddy games, now that they've ditched it with the "Wii U".

And with the "Wii U", Nintendo is again, going to fail with their stupid 12"-wide controller that no one under the age of 21 can hold.

But for SOME reason, I just know that everyone is going to label it as the greatest, most innovative product ever in the history of the world.

It's like all Nintendo can do is use people's "cognitive dissonance".
Their products are SO bad, that people have to make themselves think that they are actually works of art, less they lose the one grasp on the image of Nintendo from their childhood.

For me.. I'm just happy that now games will be on HD 4870 levels of graphics..

If that's not the saddest thing.. I don't know what is.
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There are Wii ports at the moment?
Read gooder yo.
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Nintendo keeps jumping from one falling branch to the next.

They ditched the "Revolution" because they realized that none of their franchises needed a graphics tweak.

So, to sell their console, now called the "Wii", they relied on a super-low price, old hardware, the fact that consumers would think it is a "current gen" console (which is never was), and the gimmicky controller..

I hope everyone now finally agrees with me that the controller was a huge gimmick that didn't work well for anything but stupid kiddy games, now that they've ditched it with the "Wii U".
Wii was the Revolution. They never ditched it. Secondly, Gimmick? It paid off and they whipped the competition did they not? Betcha M$ and Sony don't go for the highest spec'd machines next round. Also, some of us do still play the Wii and even enjoy it
     
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