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Also, a 4890-ish card with the optimization of a console backing it will destroy 1080p

THIS!!!

After all, it has 1.39TFLOPS of computing power, that is one hell of a lot O.O
   
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Haha, well most commercial items have some sort of gimmick. If not... well, there wouldn't be much to advertise, besides raw performance numbers.

Though I wouldn't say every tech device is a gimmick. A feature that serves a practical purpose (like this new beefy Wii U GPU) wouldn't really be gimmicky, because the attention it attracts is a byproduct of its primary function: powering demanding games in HD.

Meanwhile something like the Wiimote was designed specifically to make the Wii seem different/special compared to the rest of the consoles, since it couldn't compete via hardware specs alone.
But the Wii was designed to change how games were to be played...
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You guys are saying the same thing. The first radeon cards that supported tessellation were the HD2000 (R600) series and the 360 just happens to have a R600 GPU in it.
Actually, the Radeon 8500 had hardware tessellation way back in 2001, with the original TruForm.

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still want to say that they should have gone with a 5000 series based part for the more advanced hardware features and improved power efficiency.
It's almost certainly a die shrink, and is likely just as power efficient as a 5000 series GPU.

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Now the only question is, is it a 4830, 4850, or 4870 in the system?
It's likely not any of those, just a GPU of very similar architecture.

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Originally Posted by AzO View Post
I don't know why people here keep comparing console specs to computer specs. Two totally different machines for totally different purposes.
Not really.

The games are very similar now, and HD resolutions are the norm. So, similar hardware (PC derived GPUs), for similar purposes (running games at common HD resolutions).

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Gimmick (ˈɡɪmɪk)

—n
1. something designed to attract extra attention, interest, or publicity

Arguing semantics is kinda pointless here, but the term seems apt to me.
Not all generators of publicity are gimmicks; it has to be at least somewhat unwarranted.
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The Wii was for inovative gaming. Kinetic/move is a gimmick.
Sometimes.. something is so stupid, you just have to lay down the gauntlet.
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Actually, the Radeon 8500 had hardware tessellation way back in 2001, with the original TruForm.
ATi's version of tessellation was different. DirectX 11 impliments tessellation in a different way and has it's own dedicated tessellator on the 5x series. This means that the two are not compatible.

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It's almost certainly a die shrink, and is likely just as power efficient as a 5000 series GPU.
No, they specifically said "Rv770". If they meant the 40nm-equivalent, they would have said "Rv870".

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It's likely not any of those, just a GPU of very similar architecture.
This is possible, but I think it unlikely.

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Not all generators of publicity are gimmicks; it has to be at least somewhat unwarranted.
You don't think calling the "Wii Wand" a revolution in gaming Unwarranted?!

Since it came out, people have been treating it like Nintendo had won the consoles wars.

Unwarranted to the tenth degree, my friend.
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But the Wii was designed to change how games were to be played...
If that doesn't break my sarcasm meter, I'll break you.
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ATi's version of tessellation was different. DirectX 11 impliments tessellation in a different way and has it's own dedicated tessellator on the 5x series. This means that the two are not compatible.



No, they specifically said "Rv770". If they meant the 40nm-equivalent, they would have said "Rv870".



This is possible, but I think it unlikely.



You don't think calling the "Wii Wand" a revolution in gaming Unwarranted?!

Since it came out, people have been treating it like Nintendo had won the consoles wars.

Unwarranted to the tenth degree, my friend.
Well, the GPU inside the XBOX 360 was some kind of half breed between R520 and R600 so it could be 40nm RV770. Which is very similar to JuniperXT aside from the pipelined tesselator.
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But the Wii was designed to change how games were to be played...
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Not all generators of publicity are gimmicks
True, but then that's not what the definition I quoted claimed.

In the case of consumer goods, items can generate publicity incidentally for several reasons (performance, quality, etc). Frivolous features added specifically for the purpose of garnering attention seem to fall under the gimmick umbrella.

I think that is the context that Track was using. Though I really, really don't care either way. I just came by this thread to gawk at the Wii U's tech specs!
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You don't think calling the "Wii Wand" a revolution in gaming Unwarranted?!
I hate the Wii because of the wand, but that is the biggest thing to happen in console gaming in my lifetime, and Im in my 30's. Its always been the same old same old with better graphics is all. The games were even funner on the 8 bit Nintendo then they are now.
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Comparing anything to either of the crysis games nowadays is really nothing to be proud of.

Lets see it run the PC version of GTA 4, even if the resource utilization was terrible, the fact that it took SOOO much is what sets it apart. If your machine can run that full on then you've got something to brag about.

This world needs to move on from crysis. Its apparent that the Crytek just doesnt care anymore. We need DX11. Look at comparison videos of the polygons. When i got my dx11 card i sat there ina benchmark program for hours just looking at how amazing the difference is.

/rant

Besides that, the wii U looks fun. Having the inventory for zelda games right in my hands on a touch screen would be cool. I jsut hope its not as gimmicky as the Wii.

I also see this console failing cause you will have to buy umpteen different controllers and attachments after paying 300+ for the thing itself.... We'll see though. I probably wont be the first to run out and buy it.
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