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why do some think that the wii remote wasn´t a revolution as to how games could be played. It was and still is, why else would microsoft and sony make a version of it for the 360 and ps3. So yes it also succeded in changing how games could be played.
Simply because you don´t like the wii remote does not make it any less of a revolution.
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why do some think that the wii remote wasn´t a revolution as to how games could be played. It was and still is, why else would microsoft and sony make a version of it for the 360 and ps3. So yes it also succeded in changing how games could be played.
Simply because you don´t like the wii remote does not make it any less of a revolution.
The PS3 has a version of the WiiMote... The Xbox does not. The Kinect is a whole different revolution. The PS Move is basically a wireless and much more accurate WiiMote.

The WiiMote was not a revolution because it was only good for a very limited number of games, and because they stole it from a guy that worked at Midway.
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I think what they did was left X10 open for a front end for gaming. Anyone who saw it on PC may have been overwhelmed by how much hardware you actually had to put out in order to get decent fraps from the CryEngine. Maybe having the 4830/4870/5830 GDDR3 equivalent would enhance this platform a little. There hasn't been such a distinguishing point for a while with gaming. 7800GS for X360, 8800GS w/ PS3s, and the Hollywood X300SE Radeon for Wii. Now, Wii 'U' comes alone in a crowd with the big guns, BR-D drive and all. If they find a way of shaving off the isolation of the system, and enable drive or system mods, it would be exclusive only to Nintendo. Imagine getting to blow slots again..... and on that note,

tl;dr - I knew, but a retrospect and modelling forward are what we need now. Need mods for our Nintendo systems, and slot loaders again for modding....
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The PS3 has a version of the WiiMote... The Xbox does not. The Kinect is a whole different revolution. The PS Move is basically a wireless and much more accurate WiiMote.

The WiiMote was not a revolution because it was only good for a very limited number of games, and because they stole it from a guy that worked at Midway.
alright, then xbox stole the idea of a cam monitoring your movement from sony since they had it befor them, sure in a unpolished way but still.
the wiimote works for most wii games, how is that limited?

AND ofcourse the ps move is more accurated, its also a lot newer than the wiimote is it not.
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Idc.

It's not like I'm going to be buying it anyways.
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Well, the GPU inside the XBOX 360 was some kind of half breed between R520 and R600 so it could be 40nm RV770. Which is very similar to JuniperXT aside from the pipelined tesselator.
I think you're referring to the R580.

You're right, in that the X360's GPU is an R580 with Unified Shaders, where the R600 was the first to introduce it in AMD's line.

But Rv770 @ 40nm already exists. It's called Rv870.

See, before, the companies would just give out a codename for the new GPU, made by nVidia and ATi, without wholly revealing the GPU it was based on.

Now, they're telling us straight up Rv770.

And the news is that it's only going to be DX10.1, which again, if it was Rv870, it would be DX10.

So, I think they're going with just a straight up 55nm Rv770.
Why would they make a special Rv770 @ 40nm with tessellation when that already exists in a DX11 variety?
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I hate the Wii because of the wand, but that is the biggest thing to happen in console gaming in my lifetime, and Im in my 30's. Its always been the same old same old with better graphics is all. The games were even funner on the 8 bit Nintendo then they are now.
And the Wii Wand actually changed something for you?

I think Kinect is FAR more along the lines of revolutionary than the freaking Wii Wand.

It's a nice concept, but not implemented well and not the staple of the industry in any way.

It was a gimmick, now it's gone, let's forget about it (but not our hatred for Nintendo).
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HD4870 is slightly better than some modern GPU's like HD5770 (or HD6770)
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Idc.

It's not like I'm going to be buying it anyways.
If it's compatible with Wii and Gamecube games, you sure will.
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HD4870 is slightly better than some modern GPU's like HD5770 (or HD6770)
That's true. The HD 5770 had half the memory bus. But it still clocked higher, so the difference isn't huge.
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