Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Keyboards › I introduce a new mx black switch mech keyboard, The CM Storm Trigger
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

I introduce a new mx black switch mech keyboard, The CM Storm Trigger - Page 4

post #31 of 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by kovboi View Post
i respectfully disagree. just because those are mechanical keyboards does not make them gaming keyboards. it might well be the case that mechanical keyboards are generally preferable to, say, logitech keyboards. some might prefer cherry black over cherry blue or brown switches. and software might permit creative key mapping. but in the end the steelseries keyboards are just that: mechanical keyboards. i'm not saying they're bad, but nothing particularly geared towards gamers (except the steelseries brand).

for my money, a gaming keyboard must at least incorporate macro keys and backlit keys. you may now commence with eyeball rolling. i'll be gaming...
Backlighting and macro keys doesn't make a gaming keyboard, a gaming keyboard. Its just rubber domes with backlighting and macro keys

I don't really know what you are trying to say... that mechanical keyboards are not better for gaming than rubber domes or that the steelseries 6gv2 doesn't have any feature over other other mechanicals? Well you are wrong about both

You don't seem to know much about mechanical keyboards. Its more about the feel about the keys, that makes them more suitable for gamers

its the low actuation point, the consistency of the keypresses, the durability and the NRKO found in almost all new mechanical keyboards. Those are all features that will benefit gamers

Macro keys is not beneficial to any serious gamer as macros are banned in tournaments. Backlightning is a useless feature as you won't be looking at your keyboard while gaming

Macro keys would actually make you play worse as the keyboard will need to be bigger and then you can't keep your arms in a natural position.

And the steelseries 6gv2 does bring a new "gaming" feature to the table over other mechanical keyboards. The removing of the left windows key
post #32 of 49
That is the ugliest thing I've ever seen in my life. And I have seen moldy green bread many a times over.

*Kisses sexy Deck*
post #33 of 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by HaiiYaa View Post
Backlighting and macro keys doesn't make a gaming keyboard, a gaming keyboard. Its just rubber domes with backlighting and macro keys

I don't really know what you are trying to say... that mechanical keyboards are not better for gaming than rubber domes or that the steelseries 6gv2 doesn't have any feature over other other mechanicals? Well you are wrong about both

You don't seem to know much about mechanical keyboards. Its more about the feel about the keys, that makes them more suitable for gamers

its the low actuation point, the consistency of the keypresses, the durability and the NRKO found in almost all new mechanical keyboards. Those are all features that will benefit gamers

Macro keys is not beneficial to any serious gamer as macros are banned in tournaments. Backlightning is a useless feature as you won't be looking at your keyboard while gaming

Macro keys would actually make you play worse as the keyboard will need to be bigger and then you can't keep your arms in a natural position.

And the steelseries 6gv2 does bring a new "gaming" feature to the table over other mechanical keyboards. The removing of the left windows key
Great post.

Not to mention that the 6gv2 and 7g have NKRO, while the BW does NOT.
Toki
(10 items)
 
  
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
[i7 860] [XFX 5870] [4x2gb] [WD 500gb] 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
[W7] [HP LP3065 - CrossOver 27Q LED-P - Acer x243w] Ducky DK1087-CELLB Tenkeyless, MX Blue - Steels... [LC power 750W] 
Audio
[ATH-A700] + [Asus Xonar DG] 
  hide details  
Reply
Toki
(10 items)
 
  
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
[i7 860] [XFX 5870] [4x2gb] [WD 500gb] 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
[W7] [HP LP3065 - CrossOver 27Q LED-P - Acer x243w] Ducky DK1087-CELLB Tenkeyless, MX Blue - Steels... [LC power 750W] 
Audio
[ATH-A700] + [Asus Xonar DG] 
  hide details  
Reply
post #34 of 49
Of all the things CM makes...
Their peripherals have got to be one of the best things I've seen.
I love the Spawn, and the design of this keyboard appeals immensely to me.

Except for that huge CM STORM logo...
T8
(17 items)
 
T6
(17 items)
 
T5
(17 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core™ i5 2400 @ 3.0 ASROCK Z68 Pro 3 M AMD Radeon HD 6950 Shader Unlocked, @ 900/1400 2x KVR1333D3N9/4G 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
2x KVR1333D3N9/2G Plextor M5S 128GB Western Digital Caviar GreenPower WD5000AACS Western Digital Caviar WD2500JS 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
LiteON iHAS324 DVD-RW DL Thermaltake Water 2.0 Pro w/ AVC DS12025B12U Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Dell Ultrasharp U2211H 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Rapoo V500 (Kailh Yellow) FSP Aurum AU-400 400W 80PLUS Gold CoolerMaster Silencio 352 CoolerMaster Storm SPAWN 
Audio
Fenda F&D H200 2.0 USB Powered 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i3 2100 @ 3.0 ASROCK Z68 Pro 3 M AMD Radeon HD 5770 1GD5 (Reference) 2x KVR1333D3N9/4G 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
2x KVR1333D3N9/2G Transcend SSD370 128GB WD Scorpio Blue WD7500BPVT Samsung SH-223C 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Thermaltake Water 3.0 Performer-C AKASA Ball Bearing Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Dell Ultrasharp U2311H 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Armaggeddon Strike Eagle MKI-3 (Kailh Red) Dell (Foxconn) F320EM-00 320W 80PLUS Gold CoolerMaster Elite 341 CM Storm SPAWN 
Audio
Dell USB Powered 2.0 
  hide details  
Reply
T8
(17 items)
 
T6
(17 items)
 
T5
(17 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core™ i5 2400 @ 3.0 ASROCK Z68 Pro 3 M AMD Radeon HD 6950 Shader Unlocked, @ 900/1400 2x KVR1333D3N9/4G 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
2x KVR1333D3N9/2G Plextor M5S 128GB Western Digital Caviar GreenPower WD5000AACS Western Digital Caviar WD2500JS 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
LiteON iHAS324 DVD-RW DL Thermaltake Water 2.0 Pro w/ AVC DS12025B12U Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Dell Ultrasharp U2211H 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Rapoo V500 (Kailh Yellow) FSP Aurum AU-400 400W 80PLUS Gold CoolerMaster Silencio 352 CoolerMaster Storm SPAWN 
Audio
Fenda F&D H200 2.0 USB Powered 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i3 2100 @ 3.0 ASROCK Z68 Pro 3 M AMD Radeon HD 5770 1GD5 (Reference) 2x KVR1333D3N9/4G 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
2x KVR1333D3N9/2G Transcend SSD370 128GB WD Scorpio Blue WD7500BPVT Samsung SH-223C 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Thermaltake Water 3.0 Performer-C AKASA Ball Bearing Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Dell Ultrasharp U2311H 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Armaggeddon Strike Eagle MKI-3 (Kailh Red) Dell (Foxconn) F320EM-00 320W 80PLUS Gold CoolerMaster Elite 341 CM Storm SPAWN 
Audio
Dell USB Powered 2.0 
  hide details  
Reply
post #35 of 49
sigh. ok. here we go again. i don't really understand why you guys insist on squashing other people's opinions and distracting the OP's thread.

Quote:
Originally Posted by HaiiYaa View Post
Backlighting and macro keys doesn't make a gaming keyboard, a gaming keyboard. Its just rubber domes with backlighting and macro keys
not all backlit boards have rubber domes. BW, mionix (if it's made), etc.

Quote:
I don't really know what you are trying to say... that mechanical keyboards are not better for gaming than rubber domes or that the steelseries 6gv2 doesn't have any feature over other other mechanicals? Well you are wrong about both
actually i'm not saying either. for some reason you guys keep shoving rubber domes in my mouth. all i'm saying is that a mechanical keyboard may be preferable to other keyboards, but that doesn't necessarily make it a gaming keyboard. the things that steelseries claim for their boards, for instance, go for just about any other mechanical keyboard. there is nothing specifically made for gaming.

Quote:
You don't seem to know much about mechanical keyboards. Its more about the feel about the keys, that makes them more suitable for gamers

its the low actuation point, the consistency of the keypresses, the durability and the NRKO found in almost all new mechanical keyboards. Those are all features that will benefit gamers
exactly my point. almost all mechanical keyboards have them. they benefit gamers only in as much as they benefit all users. are you saying that all mechanical keyboards are gaming keyboards? because clearly they aren't.

Quote:
Macro keys is not beneficial to any serious gamer as macros are banned in tournaments. Backlightning is a useless feature as you won't be looking at your keyboard while gaming
most gamers are not professional gamers (which is not the same as a "serious gamer," which in itself is an oxymoron). i don't play in tournaments. i do use the macro keys enough too justify them. and i do appreciate the backlighting when it's dark. as i said, these are features that i consider distinguishing for a gaming keyboard. what you're saying is, "you're not l33t enough to say what qualifies as a gaming keyboard."

Quote:
Macro keys would actually make you play worse as the keyboard will need to be bigger and then you can't keep your arms in a natural position.
balderdash.

Quote:
And the steelseries 6gv2 does bring a new "gaming" feature to the table over other mechanical keyboards. The removing of the left windows key
ok, i'll grant that feature i suppose. of course, it's easily disabled in software if it really causes you pain. the windows key never posed a problem for me. and i suppose that if you don't need to look at keys then it shouldn't be a problem for you, either.

but then again, this thread isn't about the steelseries boards, touch typing, or gaming cred...

to review, all i said was "great, a mech gaming keyboard to compete with BW."
post #36 of 49
Don't argue with the mech leets here man, they will drown you. You could talk about ketchup in ot, and will still get drilled to superior feel!
Board looks nice though, no gloss, not too flashy, relatively narrow frame, logo is a bit intrusive, but that easily remedied.
Edited by Fletcherea - 6/28/11 at 7:56am
PC
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5-4670k ASRock Z87E-ITX ZOTAC GeForce GTX 970 G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR... 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Toshiba DT01ACA200 OCZ Vertex 460 Swiftech H220-X EK-FC970 GTX Full Cover Water Block 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
Black Ice Nemesis 120GTS Ultra Stealth U-Flow L... Windows 10 BenQ GW Series GW2760HS  Silverstone Tek 450-Watts SFX 
Case
BitFenix Prodigy 
  hide details  
Reply
PC
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5-4670k ASRock Z87E-ITX ZOTAC GeForce GTX 970 G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR... 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Toshiba DT01ACA200 OCZ Vertex 460 Swiftech H220-X EK-FC970 GTX Full Cover Water Block 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
Black Ice Nemesis 120GTS Ultra Stealth U-Flow L... Windows 10 BenQ GW Series GW2760HS  Silverstone Tek 450-Watts SFX 
Case
BitFenix Prodigy 
  hide details  
Reply
post #37 of 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by kovboi View Post
sigh. ok. here we go again. i don't really understand why you guys insist on squashing other people's opinions and distracting the OP's thread.
Sigh... You claim that theres nothing specificly geared towards gamers in the steelseries 6gv2 and 7g keyboards. When you make such a stupid claim you should expect to be corrected




Quote:
Originally Posted by kovboi View Post
not all backlit boards have rubber domes. BW, mionix (if it's made), etc.
I never claimed so


Quote:
Originally Posted by kovboi View Post
actually i'm not saying either. for some reason you guys keep shoving rubber domes in my mouth. all i'm saying is that a mechanical keyboard may be preferable to other keyboards, but that doesn't necessarily make it a gaming keyboard. the things that steelseries claim for their boards, for instance, go for just about any other mechanical keyboard. there is nothing specifically made for gaming.
Steelseries are right to brand a keyboard as a gaming keyboard when it have several features that benefit gamers. The low actuation point, the consistency of the keypresses, the durability and the NRKO are all features that benefit gamers.




Quote:
Originally Posted by kovboi View Post
exactly my point. almost all mechanical keyboards have them. they benefit gamers only in as much as they benefit all users. are you saying that all mechanical keyboards are gaming keyboards? because clearly they aren't.
NRKO doesn't really benefit other users than gamers. And read my comment above


Quote:
Originally Posted by kovboi View Post
most gamers are not professional gamers (which is not the same as a "serious gamer," which in itself is an oxymoron). i don't play in tournaments. i do use the macro keys enough too justify them. and i do appreciate the backlighting when it's dark. as i said, these are features that i consider distinguishing for a gaming keyboard. what you're saying is, "you're not l33t enough to say what qualifies as a gaming keyboard."
Thats like saying a ferrari isn't a sports car because most people are using a honda fit or nissan maxima





Quote:
Originally Posted by kovboi View Post
ok, i'll grant that feature i suppose. of course, it's easily disabled in software if it really causes you pain. the windows key never posed a problem for me. and i suppose that if you don't need to look at keys then it shouldn't be a problem for you, either.
Its still a feature aimed at gamers and nobody is perfect its possible to press the wrong key sometimes. And if you happen to press the windows key at the wrong time in a professional match then you are going to lose the game.

The softwares that are out there to disable the windows key is not always reliable so they aren't really an option.

Quote:
Originally Posted by kovboi View Post
but then again, this thread isn't about the steelseries boards, touch typing, or gaming cred...

to review, all i said was "great, a mech gaming keyboard to compete with BW."
I was not responding to that comment...
post #38 of 49
Not sure why people are so big on macro keys. 99% of professional/casual tournaments don't allow them, most pros don't use them. If they can work their way around it, I'm sure you can too......

If you're that reliant on macro keys, there are bigger issues there w/ playing. Easier initially, yes, but you won't develop as much as a player if you rely on them too much.
First build
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 750 ASUS P7P55D-E PRO Galaxy GTX 580 1.5GB Accelero Xtreme Plus Cooler G.SKILL Ripjaws 8GB F3 12800CL8D-8GBXM 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vertex2 Extended 120, Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB LITEON 24x Internal DVD/CD Writer Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung XL2370 LED Filco Ninja Majestouch 2 Brown Keys, IBM Model M XFX 750W Black Edition HAF 932 Black Edition 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Deathadder 3G, R.A.T 9, G400 Artisan Hayate, QCK Heavy, Artisen Hien Audio Technica AD700, Klipsch Image x10 
  hide details  
Reply
First build
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 750 ASUS P7P55D-E PRO Galaxy GTX 580 1.5GB Accelero Xtreme Plus Cooler G.SKILL Ripjaws 8GB F3 12800CL8D-8GBXM 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vertex2 Extended 120, Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB LITEON 24x Internal DVD/CD Writer Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung XL2370 LED Filco Ninja Majestouch 2 Brown Keys, IBM Model M XFX 750W Black Edition HAF 932 Black Edition 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Deathadder 3G, R.A.T 9, G400 Artisan Hayate, QCK Heavy, Artisen Hien Audio Technica AD700, Klipsch Image x10 
  hide details  
Reply
post #39 of 49
If I went backlit I would only consider the Deck.
Turbulence
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5-2500k 4.4GHz Asus P8P67 Pro 3.1 HIS HD 7870 2GB G.SKILL Ripjaws X 16GB 1600MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Crucial m4 128GB Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Asus DRW-24B1ST Noctua NH-D14 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Accelero Twin Turbo II Windows 7 Professional N Dell U2311H Realforce 87U White 55cN 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair TX650V2 Fractal Design R3 Black Pearl Razer DeathAdder SteelSeries 4HD 
AudioAudioAudio
Audinst HUD-mx1 Beyerdynamic DT990 Premium 600 Ω Recabled M-Audio AV40 
  hide details  
Reply
Turbulence
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5-2500k 4.4GHz Asus P8P67 Pro 3.1 HIS HD 7870 2GB G.SKILL Ripjaws X 16GB 1600MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Crucial m4 128GB Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Asus DRW-24B1ST Noctua NH-D14 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Accelero Twin Turbo II Windows 7 Professional N Dell U2311H Realforce 87U White 55cN 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair TX650V2 Fractal Design R3 Black Pearl Razer DeathAdder SteelSeries 4HD 
AudioAudioAudio
Audinst HUD-mx1 Beyerdynamic DT990 Premium 600 Ω Recabled M-Audio AV40 
  hide details  
Reply
post #40 of 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by HaiiYaa View Post
Sigh... You claim that theres nothing specificly geared towards gamers in the steelseries 6gv2 and 7g keyboards. When you make such a stupid claim you should expect to be corrected
perhaps you should re-read the forum's rules of conduct. you have an issue with me, send me a PM or contact a mod. and regarding "being corrected..."

Quote:
Steelseries are right to brand a keyboard as a gaming keyboard when it have several features that benefit gamers. The low actuation point, the consistency of the keypresses, the durability and the NRKO are all features that benefit gamers.
as you said earlier, these are features that all modern mech keyboards bear in common.

Quote:
Thats like saying a ferrari isn't a sports car because most people are using a honda fit or nissan maxima
that argument works for a professional gaming forum, perhaps. one does not have to play in pro tournaments to be a gamer or to be interested in gaming features.

of course, there are a great number of cars that are "sports cars," and not all of them cost upwards of $100k. but if you really want to extend that analogy, where would you put the CM keyboard that this thread is supposed to be about? so far i see a board that promises a full range of choice for switches, plus providing features like backlit keys and macro keys for those of us who actually find value in them. more info needed, but seems promising to me. perhaps that's what we should be focusing on here, rather than coming after me.

Quote:
The softwares that are out there to disable the windows key is not always reliable so they aren't really an option.
then just disable it in the registry. microsoft makes it easy:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216893
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Keyboards
Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Keyboards › I introduce a new mx black switch mech keyboard, The CM Storm Trigger