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this is a rubbish version of llano, it is rated for 35W and downclocks, where are the reviews for the 3510mx and 3530mx

these are the processors they used in the video a few months back beasting a 2630qm
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I think, just has been the case for ages.
AMD Graphics > Intel Graphics.
AMD Processor < Intel Processor.

So essentially, when you put it in a true gaming laptop scenario, SB+Discrete graphics > Llano + Discrete.

Not knocking the AMD as it seems like nice chip, but SBs short coming was the graphics end of it seeing as the actual processing aspect of it walked all over the AMD.
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I think, just has been the case for ages.
AMD Graphics > Intel Graphics.
AMD Processor < Intel Processor.

So essentially, when you put it in a true gaming laptop scenario, SB+Discrete graphics > Llano + Discrete.

Not knocking the AMD as it seems like nice chip, but SBs short coming was the graphics end of it seeing as the actual processing aspect of it walked all over the AMD.
you are still thinking like an enthusiast, instead of a average consumer... and price/performance.

There is no sandy bridge laptop under 600 dollars with a decent graphics card.

amd = price/perfomance, while intel = enthusiast performance for richer people

Amd still the price/performance king.
While intel is the enthusiast king for richer people.

actually the lowest I have seen was a intelchip paired with a nvidia graphics chip for 900 at bestbuy, and that was considered a really good deal.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834152264

I'm no scientist, but that seems like its way cheaper than 900. And there's been no confirmed pricing saying that Llano + discrete graphics will be $600 USD. There was one listed on a german site for 600 or so Euros.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834152264

I'm no scientist, but that seems like its way cheaper than 900. And there's been no confirmed pricing saying that Llano + discrete graphics will be $600 USD. There was one listed on a german site for 600 or so Euros.
yes i'm being a skeptic here, guess we will have to see when the liano product in laptops hits stores, to find out whether amd or intel+nvidia discrete will hold the edge in price/performance. that deal you listed looks pretty nice too, my comment on the 900 laptop was actually from 6 months ago so nevermind that...
Hopefully liano quads are 500 - 800 with apu+discrete for crossfire. plus a driver pach release from amd to fix crossfire issues.
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Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post
5-1, in favor of SB... The resounding thought process was that "AMD Now beat Intel at laptops"... When the real conclusion is - I'd take a SB chip with nvidia/amd desecrate over stars in any form, the laptop SB cpu is actually faster than AMDs desktop Phenom II x4 in many instances when reduced to 2.4GHz.

Btw the i5-2520m is a dual core with HT.
You are happy that SB beats Phenom II...OK I guess. Problem is, we all knew that already. That is why nobody is talking about that point.

As for the SB chip with nvidia/amd combo, how much does that cost and how fast does the battery die? Those two issues are 100x more important to the the person considering this laptop than any benchmark you just posted. Average person can't tell the difference in CPU speed, but image quality (HD content, games) is obvious to anybody.

If you can find me a SB/Nvidia combo laptop better than Llano in $ and battery life -- you win.

EDIT: Llano laptop prices are not well known right now so we may have to wait for reviews after retail for product to product comparisons.
Edited by JCPUser - 6/15/11 at 2:45am
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http://www.techpowerup.com/147449/HP...ed-by-AMD.html

amd wins price/performance.
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You do realize this a laptop with a APU that has around a 45W TDP. Not to mention the price will be $600-$700. You couldn't game at all on a laptop in that price range before Llano. Yes, not even with sandy bridge.

This is a mainstream laptop that can do some light gaming not a $1500+ gaming laptop with a huge res from Alienware.
Agreed.
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you are still thinking like an enthusiast, instead of a average consumer... and price/performance.

There is no sandy bridge laptop under 600 dollars with a decent graphics card.

amd = price/perfomance, while intel = enthusiast performance for richer people

Amd still the price/performance king.
While intel is the enthusiast king for richer people.

actually the lowest I have seen was a intelchip paired with a nvidia graphics chip for 900 at bestbuy, and that was considered a really good deal.
True.
AMD is providing a good CPU&GPU solution here for the masses who are tired of intel crap graphics at an affordable price while at the same time having a decent battery life,it was never meant to compete with a $1,000 notebook.
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No AA, low res... even so near unplayable fps with a dual gpu system?

I'll pass, but its nice to see AMD doing well in something since they bought ATI so long ago.
The people who are bashing it or questioning it are the ones who wouldn't even consider one anyway.
I didn't know 30FPS. average was unplayable?
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this is a rubbish version of llano, it is rated for 35W and downclocks, where are the reviews for the 3510mx and 3530mx

these are the processors they used in the video a few months back beasting a 2630qm
Is the 3510 and 3530MX even being produced? I have heard nothing of a A8 MX APU
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impressive performance id say. who number crunches on laptops anyway -.-"
^This!
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