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I added a GTX560 Ti to my sig rig as a dedicated folder, but now I basically can't do bigadv with the CPU.

When it was just my CPU and 1 video card, I was getting TPF of under 40 minutes on most bigadv work units, except P2684 obviously. Depending on the project, my machine was finishing them in 2.5 to 3 days, or about 3.5 days for P2684.

With the 2nd video card installed, I was getting TPF >1 hour on P2685 units, pushing the completion time to past the 4 day deadline for bonus points.

I expected to take a little bit of a hit on my bigadv folding, but not such a huge hit that it isn't worthwhile to do them.

I switched to regular SMP folding on the CPU, but now my average PPD is roughly the same, maybe slightly higher, than with just my GTX470 + bigadv folding on my CPU....

I'm using the v7 client in windows 7, and really don't have any idea how to set things up more efficiently, or if there is anything that can be done.
This system pretty much has to stay a windows 7 system, so any changes would need to be to the folding software/setup.

Any advice?

The only thing I can think of would be for me to track down motherboard with two full size PCIe slots, that will take a Phenom x4 9650 CPU, for my other system so I can toss the GTX560 Ti in it with the 9800GT it has.
Then I could go back to GPU + bigadv on the CPU in my sig rig.

The whole thing is just kind of annoying because I just spent $210 to try to add at least 10k PPD to my total, but am getting at best 2-3k PPD more.
I also just realized today that I could have picked up a 6 core AMD CPU and motherboard for $350 or less, and cobbled the rest together out of spare parts to build a budget Linux bigadv folder.
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The 2 gpu's are pulling the CPU's power. Just fold on 7 threads and leave 1 for the gpu's and your tpf for the big adv should go back to the low 30's. I only use 7 threads on my sig rig and have a tpf of 33:36 when I was using 8 threads it was 43mins.
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The 2 gpu's are pulling the CPU's power. Just fold on 7 threads and leave 1 for the gpu's and your tpf for the big adv should go back to the low 30's. I only use 7 threads on my sig rig and have a tpf of 33:36 when I was using 8 threads it was 43mins.
Hmm, I'd have to change clients to set SMP7, it doesn't work in the v7 client.
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I messed around with V7 for a little while (didn't like it) but I do recall seeing somewhere you could set how many threads to use. Someone with more experience on V7 might be able to answer.
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I messed around with V7 for a little while (didn't like it) but I do recall seeing somewhere you could set how many threads to use. Someone with more experience on V7 might be able to answer.
You can, but it is in multiples of 2. If you set an odd number, the work units fail.

I think I have the windows smp console client and HFM set up correctly now, I'll see how it goes.
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I believe it warns you that the units will fail, but it actually doesn't cause an issue with all the current units (although you can't change mid-WU). Not actually used v7 or -bigadv though.

What board do you currently have for your AMD setup though? GPUs will quite happily fold at full tilt in an x1 slot (use a cheap riser so you don't need to cut card or board). I have a GTS 450 in an x1 slot and I notice no difference between that and a GTS 450 in the x16 slot on the same board (in fact the x1 card gets a little higher PPD as it's clocked very slightly higher). A $3 riser is a lot cheaper than an unnecessary motherboard upgrade.
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I switched to the windows SMP console client, with the -smp 7 flag, and am currently getting a TPF of 33 minutes on a P6900 unit!

Problem solved.

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I believe it warns you that the units will fail, but it actually doesn't cause an issue with all the current units (although you can't change mid-WU). Not actually used v7 or -bigadv though.

What board do you currently have for your AMD setup though? GPUs will quite happily fold at full tilt in an x1 slot (use a cheap riser so you don't need to cut card or board). I have a GTS 450 in an x1 slot and I notice no difference between that and a GTS 450 in the x16 slot on the same board (in fact the x1 card gets a little higher PPD as it's clocked very slightly higher). A $3 riser is a lot cheaper than an unnecessary motherboard upgrade.
I tried setting it to smp 7 in the v7 client and it actually stopped running the WU amd wouldn't download another.

Thanks for the info on the riser, I didn't know they existed, lol.
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It isn't odd numbers that confuse v7; it's prime numbers

So this doesn't help, as 7 is still prime, but just so you know
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It isn't odd numbers that confuse v7; it's prime numbers

So this doesn't help, as 7 is still prime, but just so you know
How have you managed to find that out? Who found that running 9, 15 or 21 cores was ok, but 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19 and 23 cores wouldn't work? Seems strange that anyone with systems with more than 8 cores would have bothered to test this...
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-smp 7 used to have issues, but it's more confined to larger primes now; -smp 11 seems to have more errors than usual.
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