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Originally Posted by Canis-X View Post
....in addition, this configuration is not "officially supported" by AMD.
More like they are covering their a**es and saying "If it doesn't work, its not our fault cause we told you it wouldn't; but if it does work, LUCKY YOU!"
Not that i mind it, they could have Been total d****es and changed the socket by one pin and 100% broken physical compatibility OH WAIT.

I will admit I think socket939/940/am2/am2+/am3 and now am3+ is getting a little long in the tooth and might be holding AMD back a little bit, maybe next-gen BD will use c32, would make sense to use the same socket for the server and high end desktop(kinda like what intel did with 1366, and AMD has done in the past with socket F IIRC). Of course since c32 is basically a modified socket F, the whole thing ends up moot i guess. Just thought since AMD has the mainstream more or less covered with FM1, there would be no need to keep AMx around for much longer.
Edited by qwertymac93 - 6/15/11 at 9:17am
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If FX beats Sandy than it will be ''one hell of a comback '' for amd...
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More like they are covering their a**es and saying "If it doesn't work, its not our fault cause we told you it wouldn't; but if it does work, LUCKY YOU!"
Not that i mind it, they could have Been total d****es and changed the socket by one pin and 100% broken physical compatibility OH WAIT
Why so ?
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post #24 of 64
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More like they are covering their a**es and saying "If it doesn't work, its not our fault cause we told you it wouldn't; but if it does work, LUCKY YOU!"
Not that i mind it, they could have Been total d****es and changed the socket by one pin and 100% broken physical compatibility OH WAIT
Duhhhhh....

AM3 = 941 pins
AM3+ = 942 pins

I know BD will be drop-in compatible with some AM3 motherboards, but seriously? They changed it too. Not to mention, anything less than an 8-series AM3 board is left out.
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Duhhhhh....

AM3 = 941 pins
AM3+ = 942 pins

I know BD will be drop-in compatible with some AM3 motherboards, but seriously? They changed it too. Not to mention, anything less than an 8-series AM3 board is left out.
The difference is am3+ has one MORE pin not one LESS, so the old chips will still fit(not so with 1156/1155). The cpu's themselves also have the same number of pins as current chips, so they still fit in the older AM3(for now at least).

8-series has been out for over a year, just long enough to acquire a sizable user base, but just recent enough to not be considered "OK to scrap". I will say if BD isn't supported by my board, i will just not get a BD chip and wait until next-gen.

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Bulldozer is not supported in your board.
Not right now it isn't, but that might change in a month or two when i would actually be contemplating weather or not i will upgrade.

Edit: Yes, i just quoted from the future. DEAL WITH IT. forgive me for not wanting to look like a chatty cathy with 3 posts on one page.
Edited by qwertymac93 - 6/15/11 at 9:47am
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Bulldozer is not supported in your board.
    
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post #27 of 64
Why would you combine the deficit OP? You should have just taken the larger number out of each...

Here's an example: assume it's 40% behind a 980X and 10% behind the 2600K. It only has to overcome the 40% to equal the best Intel chip, not a combined 50%.
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Heavy paid $230 for his 1090T, after SB released.




I don't understand why stock performance charts are even used on this website, the vast majority of us overclock. My SB can clock up an additional 2000MHz, my video cards can grab another 300MHz, stock means nothing here.
$200 actually,around the time of the SB chipset debacle.
A AM3 system,at the time,also cost less.
The last time I had checked the prices on a 1100T,it was around $180 on newegg. I was unaware that it had gone back up to $200.
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Bulldozer is not supported in your board.
Why do you expect? It's a lower end 870 chipset board,most,if not all AM3+ compatible board are the 880 series.
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More like they are covering their a**es and saying "If it doesn't work, its not our fault cause we told you it wouldn't; but if it does work, LUCKY YOU!"
Not that i mind it, they could have Been total d****es and changed the socket by one pin and 100% broken physical compatibility OH WAIT.

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AM3+ 990X is still based on the 890FX,with SLI and a few other updated features.
Socket FM1 and Llano APU isn't enough to cover the entire mainstream right now,some users need more power. Thus,probably why AMD decided to keep the AMx platform around awhile longer. I wonder if they'll keep the AM3+ socket around when Trinity with BD cores is out in 2012.
Edited by Heavy MG - 6/15/11 at 10:27am
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I think AMD dropped the 1 pin.....
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I think AMD dropped the 1 pin.....
They added one
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