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So this board doesn't have cpu-nb voltage or nb freq multiplier because it's literally the first am2+ board from MSI. However, there's a "secret truth" that HT multiplier also acts as NB multiplier

So here's my experience with it:

Code:
Only multiplier and voltage change. I raised NB(the regular one) voltage to 1.25v just 
in case for 2600 ht&nb runs. Everything else is default.

Cinebench 11.5
3.9ghz cpu   2.6ghz ht&nb    @ 1.44v = 6.87
4.0ghz       2.0ghz          @ 1.48v = 6.83
3.9ghz       2.0ghz          @ 1.44v = 6.79
3.8ghz       2.0ghz          @ 1.41v = 6.63
3.2ghz       2.6ghz          @ stock = 5.74
3.2ghz       2.0ghz          @ stock = 5.70
These are all first runs so Cpu cache is not an issue. A rerun on 3.9 cpu 2.6 nb gives 6.91

Yes it also raises HT link speed to 2600 on my case. Oddly, it only raises NB for some people who owns this board. I did intel burn test, passmark tests and 3dmark11 runs and there were no problems at all.

Do you think 2600 HT would be a problem later on ?
Edited by Catscratch - 6/15/11 at 8:58am
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Is there no way you can lower your HT Link? You could try amd overdrive and see if that works. It shouldnt hurt your board having it up, just your benchmarks.
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Yeah i'll give it a try but I recall there were no NB multiplier in AOD either. There may be a certain way where it only raises nb in bios, maybe the first bios for thubans does that. I got the latest. It seems I need to get in touch with those ppl i mentioned

Otherwise, i'll be focusing on 3800-3900 with 1.41v. The heat from 1.49v for 4ghz isn't worth it

I'm also trying to tweak Turbo Core route There's only Turbo Core enable/disable and Turbo Core Multiplier in bios, no turbo core voltage. I wonder if I just set normal multiplier to 200x18 = 3600 with 1.37v and set TC multi to 200x20 = 4ghz, would it increase the voltage according to it ? Because with default turbo core behavior i see vcore fluctuations between 1.2-1.5. And in AOD turbo core section shows 1.47v for 3600, which is odd. I wonder if it can use different voltage for different cores.
Edited by Catscratch - 6/15/11 at 6:25am
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post #4 of 8
It has nothing to do with which thurban you have. They all can work that way. You should be looking for something called HT Link or hypertransport link or HT Something. If you post some pics of your bios I can help you out.
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Well this is an am2+ board. They supported Thubans with a bios. And there's ht ratio and ht voltage, nothing else related to HT
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Well its going to be your HT Ratio, lower it so that it reads 2000 in cpu-z if it wonr tell you in the bios.
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Well, as i said they made HT ratio also raise NB ratio on this board. There's no separate NB ratio setting. And it does improve performance while having both HT and NB at 2600 mhz.
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So i was fiddling with AMD Overdrive and I found out that I can actually separate my HT
freq and NB freq. Thou it's stuck at 2600 because the max HT(also NB) multi is 13 in bios. In Overdrive, the HT link multi only lowers HT link frequency So i'm left with 2000 ht and 2600 nb



Now I wonder, how the hell is it stable ? What's the default 1090t nb frequency anyway ? Since ht multi in bios also raises NB, I suspect HT link voltage also applies to CPU-NB voltage, which is default 1.2v atm.
Edited by Catscratch - 6/24/11 at 1:00pm
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