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This is what I imagine you wanting every time you type.

Now that is funny! We're Not Worthy!!! We're Not Worthy!!!
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post #62 of 286
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Why are you ranting mate, People ask for advice and people give advice... it's kinda what OCN is all about. IMO most systems should have a 650w in-case of future upgrading. That being said if someone puts a post up asking which PSU to purchase and says specifically that he will "NEVER" do sli or Xfrie or upgrade at all...EVER then i cant imagine anyone here suggesting that he/she should purchase a 650w. And in all fairness its not really that big of a deal. They have google.
He is ranting because you said it yourself, they ask for advise, but if people keep giving false advise, theres no use to ask in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Phaedrus2129 View Post
Knock it off, you're making people waste money. I guess a lot of you are newer users, but you could still look at what the more experienced are saying. If the person is going to use a GTX590 or HD6990, sure recommend a 650W. But if they're using an HD6950 or GTS450 or HD6850 and state that they aren't going to SLI/Crossfire, then recommending a 650W or more is wasting their money.

And before saying "they may want to SLI/Crossfire later", first check and make sure that they have a dual slot motherboard in the first place.
I totally agree with you, it irritates me aswell.
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My 650 powers my overclocked 2600k and 580 quite nicely
    
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What about when the price difference is negligible?
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Meh. You do see that a lot between 650W and 750W models, or between 550W and 650W. Then it's not a huge deal to go the step up, if the difference is less than $10 or something.
Glad you can at least agree on that. Often times even I find myself suggesting 650W PSUs for a single card setup simply because the price difference is so small from say a 550-600W unit.
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Phaedrus its time to stop dedicating YOUR LIFE to telling people they have too many jiggawatts....

after all... this is OCN and we do it big.

EDIT: I don't get why you don't mention quality???

"then recommending a 650W or more is wasting their money."

My 700 watt StealthxStream could not handle my 6950 + 1090t overclocked...


FYI
Thats not a true 700W psu. Thats actually a crappy one. >.>
post #66 of 286
I feel that most people are not just looking for the cheapest PSU with the least wattage to power their system. If they are, they would say so specifically and may need a bit more education on the following:
IMO: The choice should include three factors: Clean Stable Power, Efficiency, and How loud the unit will run.

When you run a PSU at peak performance, it is going to be less efficient, run hotter (although not necessarily dangerously hot for that unit), and therefore be louder due to the fact that most Quality PSUs will have self adjusting fan speed.

I would vote for something like a Corsair AX750 or AX850 if you want a little more headroom. Even for a single card. You can have an AX750 for around $150 and in the grand scheme of any quality build, that is far from a big chunk of your budget. Skimp on something else that is much easier to replace if you must or just wait an extra week or two and save a few more pennies.

I don't think we are doing anyone a disservice recommending a quality PSU in that range even for a single card build with no OC. These units will last and give headroom for just about anything in the future.

Really, what do you gain by putting a 500w psu in instead? Save 50 bucks, please. Replace the unit once and your're already loosing money.

For the Record: I am biased because I own one of each of the units I speak of. The AX750 is in my wife's rig Q6700 and GTX 295.



That said, informing people as to why a certain unit is recommended would also be kosher. Give them the choice of the minimum as well. I ran that Q6700 and GTX 295 on a cheap Apevia 650 for years with no issues.
Edited by Brittain - 6/15/11 at 9:46am
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post #67 of 286
Mate.... What an Epic Fail Rant...

I'm SO glad that people recommended me a 650Wat unit. I Said I would NEVER crossfire, and I had a Sinlge PCI-E slot motherboard when I bought my 650W unit, Now I have crossfire and oc'ed cpu + 4 HDDs with all the other sutff. If it hasn't been for people suggesting a higher PSU then needed, I would have spent like $100 more Bucks plus I would have an Unused PSU collecting dirt. Suggesting 650W-750W PSU is ok. 850W-1350W Its overkill and they should NOT be recommended if not needed. Nuff said.
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*snip*
When you run a PSU at peak performance, it is going to be less efficient
*snip*
False. In terms of wattage in vs. wattage out, PSUs are more efficient as the load increases.
    
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You guys are missing the point.He's not just trying to tell you what to recommend.He's trying to combat the inflated requirements the industry is pushing.Basically what he is saying is always state the correct wattage requirements,then the end user can choose headroom and budget etc.
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post #70 of 286
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You guys are missing the point.He's not just trying to tell you what to recommend.He's trying to combat the inflated requirements the industry is pushing.Basically what he is saying is always state the correct wattage requirements,then the end user can choose headroom and budget etc.
bingo
because if you go with nvidia/AMD's stated reqs, you'll need a 800W PSU to power 1 HD6950 or GTX570 lol.

and yes my PSU is overkill, but i got it for $90 bucks so meh =P
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