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Im afraid that my month old palit geforce gtx 580 is broken .. It started out as complications enabling sli, with immediate crashes after enabling it etc. Now i have found out, that if i just run the pc off this card, i will get crashes as soon as i put load on the card. If i start up the wow client, it'll crash. If i start any benchmark program, it'll crash.

And this is at stock speeds!

I can only think of 2 causes - the card got spattered with ultra-distilled water when powered off, and it got wiped off and sat for 4 days without power.

2nd reason is installing my waterblock, but i don't think that's the cause. Maybe i forgot a pad on one of the chips, so as soon as i load the card, it crashes ?? Does the symptoms make that a possible scenario?

3rd option - the card is just broken, and there's nothing to do. Maybe baking ?

There is no warranty, since i installed the block and i bought it slightly used ..
    
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Edited by Switch296 - 1/12/13 at 10:20pm
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I feel bad for you guys. Levis, if you think you may have forgotten to reinstall a pad you should definitely open it back up and check that first. Have you tried downclocking to see if that solves it?
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I feel bad for you guys. Levis, if you think you may have forgotten to reinstall a pad you should definitely open it back up and check that first. Have you tried downclocking to see if that solves it?
i think i tried downclocking it by only 40 mhz or so. But it has just been powered off for a day now, im running of my 2nd 580. Its just so annoying to open it up, since its a part of a giant WC loop

But it sucks so bad .. the 580s are 600 $ here in DK!!
    
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Very rare on the 580 cards, but with any card there is that possibility it comes defected. Call Palit and start an RMA process, there tech will most likely walk you through some tests before determining it's dead. Feel bad that it happened after 30 days you could have taken it back to the store you bought it from. I'd give calling the store first a try and speak with a supervisor. I find if you push just a little in a nice way you might get them to exchange it. Don't speak to the first person who answers the phone as they most likely won't be able to help you. Good luck and let us know what ended up happening by posting back.
     
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Thank you lord - Switch269 you saved my day. It just seems that ive got a slightly bad chip. I upped the voltage to 1.125 and the card runs 940 mhz on the core with no problem, and i got a 6900 GPU score on 3dmark 11. It also runs 782 mhz stable on approx. 1.040 volt. It just seems that my chip is rather poor

But i still have a problem enabling sli - as soon as i enable sli, the screen goes to 1280*760 or something, and my computer does not recognize the two cards. I suspect this to be power related, since theyre running on a 750 watt psu powering 2x 8 pin and 1 6 pin, and a 550 powering 1 6 pin. But i think both cards are working now !
    
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Thank you lord - Switch269 you saved my day. It just seems that ive got a slightly bad chip. I upped the voltage to 1.125 and the card runs 940 mhz on the core with no problem, and i got a 6900 GPU score on 3dmark 11. It also runs 782 mhz stable on approx. 1.040 volt. It just seems that my chip is rather poor

But i still have a problem enabling sli - as soon as i enable sli, the screen goes to 1280*760 or something, and my computer does not recognize the two cards. I suspect this to be power related, since theyre running on a 750 watt psu powering 2x 8 pin and 1 6 pin, and a 550 powering 1 6 pin. But i think both cards are working now !
First thing's first, I recommend filling out as much of the information in your system profile in order to get the best help possible:

http://www.overclock.net/specs.php



Moving on, since you need more voltage to run the card at stock settings, it's possible the card may still be in need of replacement, which may also be why your system becomes unstable as soon as SLI is enabled.

However, before going through that route, you mentioned you are using a waterblock now. I would try reseating the block, since you mentioned you may have missed a pad anyway. While it is off, I would also inspect it to make sure there are no small fractures or leaks. When reinstalling the block (depending on which one you have), make sure to not over-torque the screws.

Your power supply setup is a bit unconventional, but if both are absolutely known to be good units, then try running a full card off the 550W unit instead of only using just the one 6-pin. I'm not sure what else you are running and which specific models (or brands) of components are in your system, but some quality 750W power supplies could also run a stock clocked system with GTX 580's in SLI. If your's is a high quality unit, you can also try running only that one PSU with the rest of your system at stock settings to see if you can enable SLI or not.

I would recommend to try to do as clean of an installation of drivers as possible. Again, not knowing any specifics as to what you may or may not have tried, many still have good luck and solid performance with the original driver set, 263.09. Depending on how long it has been since your last format, you may want to also look into reformatting your system as well to see if running on a clean slate will help to resolve some issues. Many times, it could actually be a software/driver issue/conflict that prevents SLI from running.

For what it's worth, in late in December, when I first got my GTX 570 SLI setup, I had many issues with enabling SLI and maintaining stability while playing DX10/11 games. Through a bit of troubleshooting, I discovered drivers did play a small role in it, but the ultimate fix that resolved everything was simply updating my motherboard's BIOS. Since then, my SLI problems have all disappeared, and even moving on to GTX 580's has not resulted in any further complications.

Best of luck with figuring out your system.
     
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Specs updated

well im not exactly sure both are known to be good units - the LC power was bought on a tight budget after buying the system, and i have some bad things about after the purchase.

I will try to update my MB bios, but i'm not very fond of this due to having no prior experiences in doing so. I have heard bad things about bricking the mobo during bios update.

I will try running one of the cards off the 550 watt too.

I have tried several driver re-installs, windows 7 reinstall etc... The problem occured on a completely fresh win 7 install on my brand new AGility 3 ssd, so it was a clean slate installation.

I have no idea what's wrong, at it's really annoying. I can't RMA the card though, as i haven't got the receit (yeah stupid i know .. and the RMA sticker is not sticking very well anymore, due to the waterblock installment. The card does run games perfectly fine though, as long as it gets its voltage bump. It was a factory overclocked version aswell, but it was only clocked 10 mhz higher than the vanilla version soo ..
    
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The 550 watt is capable of powering 1 card (with it powering 8 pins, and my gx750 powering 6 pins). I cannot make it power the card completely by itself due the fact that it only has 1x 8 pin pci express.

But what happens now, as soon as i plug in the other card and power up them both, the display scales down to 1280*720 and none of the cards are reckognized. i think this is due to my drivers enabling sli by default now, and therefore none is functioning at boot. I will check ASUS post to see if the bios reckognizes both card at POST.
    
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I tried booting to my 2nd bios (version identical with the other one where sli does not work) and this didn't work either. I did this to ensure that my 1st bios wasn't corrupted.

I will attempt a bios flash to a newer version, and see if that works.
    
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