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Yeah but "good" is relative. I'm in the minority around here when I say that I think Crysis 2 is an awesome game. Am I wrong, or is everybody else?
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Except a "good game" is a subjective matter, as CrAzYLiFe just showed us
Yeah, except when the author gives examples and objective reasoning, which he did. Everything is subjective - EVERYTHING. If you guys want objective reviews, look at the source code.

Saying "Game is good!" is largely subjective. Saying "Game is good because has crisp controls, abundant settings and challenging AI", and then expanding on why you think so is largely objective.

If the majority of people think it is bad, you can form an opinion. Of course it is subjective, EVERYTHING is, but you have to make judgements on subjective accounts. That is what reviews are all about, and why you should never just read one.
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Diablo 3 where art thou??
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DNF rocks!
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Yeah, except when the author gives examples and objective reasoning, which he did. Everything is subjective - EVERYTHING. If you guys want objective reviews, look at the source code.

Saying "Game is good!" is largely subjective. Saying "Game is good because has crisp controls, abundant settings and challenging AI", and then expanding on why you think so is largely objective.

If the majority of people think it is bad, you can form an opinion. Of course it is subjective, EVERYTHING is, but you have to make judgements on subjective accounts. That is what reviews are all about, and why you should never just read one.
That's why I don't care about reviews, because half of the games I've enjoyed apparently got low scores from these "reviewers"
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That's why I don't care about reviews, because half of the games I've enjoyed apparently got low scores from these "reviewers"
I look at it as more information, I don't have to listen to it. I gather as much information as I can until I feel confident in analyzing it for what satisfies my questions. Everyone should take everything with a grain of salt and come to their own conclusions.

I'm glad you enjoy a lot of games that otherwise get bad reviews, but buying them just based on the marketing is gambling. Doing anything based on feedback from the people that would benefit from your action is gambling.
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What, they can't take criticism and negative reviews? Its their fault anyway, make sure next time they should improve where they went wrong, punishing sites that posted a negative review makes them look desperate.
RTFA before you comment on it.
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I look at it as more information, I don't have to listen to it. I gather as much information as I can until I feel confident in analyzing it for what satisfies my questions. Everyone should take everything with a grain of salt and come to their own conclusions.

I'm glad you enjoy a lot of games that otherwise get bad reviews, but buying them just based on the marketing is gambling.
Well I never buy games based on the marketing, sometimes playing a demo and trying it out firsthand and without any sort of expectation is the best thing to do, although most games unfortunately don't have demos :/
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I don't know why everyone's complaining... i quite like DNF
 
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it's campy, the jokes are really really lame, but that's the point. I like it, hope it sells well and paves the way for a more polished game in the future.
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Wow, that was a very swift response to the PR nightmare. I wonder if irreparable damage was done, or if critics will retain respect. I respect them more for this. And it's a reminder that perhaps the views of the PR department/firm are not always the views of the actual production team.
    
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