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You can flash using a usb, but you have to make it a bootable using windows startup files like win 98. The crucial forum has instructions on how to do that. I used an HP utility to do mine then copied over the firmaware and flashing utility. Pretty easy and I did not have to switch to IDE mode like the instructions say. I did it in ACHI.

AMD controller does not support TRIM last time I checked. Only Intel does.
Great, I will check about using a USB drive for it.

As for TRIM, I have yet to look properly to find out if the latest AMD AHCI drivers support it but if you run Windows 7 with the default Microsoft AHCI drivers, TRIM is indeed supported. I can say from experience however that by using both Microsoft's AHCI drivers and AMD's several latest AHCI driver versions, that TRIM is reported as enabled and functional in Windows 7 for me.

EDIT: Some more research online has told me that AMD controllers do support TRIM as from the 800-series onwards (my motherboard included). Initially they still had no driver-level support but this was introduced in AMD AHCI 10.9 drivers. Since we're currently on 11.6, TRIM support is definitely there!
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Nice! I will switch mine back to AMD then.

If you need help getting the usb setup, let me know. I did it that way myself, so I can get you what you need. The CD image did not work for me, but it did for many other people.

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Just got my M4 yesterday and I love it! So far not a single issue.
Hey, do you care to run a Benchmark with As SSD to show us what performance you are getting out of it? Is it hooked up to SATA II or SATA II?

You will never want to go back to a spinning drive! I did go from a C300 64 to a WD Blue 500 and oh god! I picked up a C300 128 asap.
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Nice! I will switch mine back to AMD then.

If you need help getting the usb setup, let me know. I did it that way myself, so I can get you what you need. The CD image did not work for me, but it did for many other people.
Brilliant, thank you man!
Do you mind posting here the instructions (or a link to them) you followed for getting a USB stick bootable with the SSD firmware on it for flashing?

P.S. AMD did indeed officially confirm the above information regarding their TRIM support as far as some other users on other forums have reported.
    
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It shouldnt make any odds whether AMD or just the default Msahci drivers are used to benchmarks etc, it hasnt with any ssd ive had on my sig rig or my previous one.....and ive had a few different ssd's
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Download your drives firmware instead of the C300, of course. The firmware for the M4 is on this page.

M4 Firmware 0002 thread.

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Crucial C300 0007 USB Firmware Update


*NOTE* Your USB drive will be formatted During this process, all Data on it will be lost!!
Please copy or move any data on your USB stick you need to keep for now, you may add it back later if you like.


1. Make a USB bootable drive using this USB Bootable USB Creation Program "HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool located here

2. Run the HPUSBFW program.

3. Select the correct USB device from the drop-down menu, set file system to FAT32 and check Create a DOS startup disk.





4. Then in the HP tool at the bottom where it says "Use DOS System Files Located At" browse for the extracted boot files which are included in the above linked download with the HP Format tool

5. Then and press start to begin formating the USB Drive. DO NOT manually copy over ANY additional files from the DOS Boot Folder!!

5. Once the device is done formatting, copy ALL of the included files from the firmware download below onto the USB Stick. You may need to enable hidden and system hidden files in the view tab of folder options to see all the files (There are 55 total items). Or you can unzip the file directly to your USB, if you do this you do not need to worry about enabling viewing of hidden files.

http://www.mediafire.com/?ty7vu63845w8b9g

12. Reboot with the USB Device connected and boot from USB (Some motherboards you can set this in the BIOS, others (Gigabyte) you just choose boot menu at startup (F12), then HDD, and then on the next screen select the USB device by name).

13. Once it boots to the USB, you will see a Windows 98 screen, and then the firmware flash will begin automatically after a few seconds.

14. Type yes when prompted and wait until you see the firmware update process is finished.

15. Success, enjoy your updated C300!

* Please also be sure to download and read Crucial's PDF firmware flashing guide!

http://www.crucial.com/firmware/0007...boot_04-11.pdf
 
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+rep for that mate, thanks very much!
OCZ have confirmed the refund so I've ordered the Crucial M4 SSD. Should be here Saturday!
I will get it up-to-date before use.

EDIT: The link to the HP tool download doesn't seem to be active!
I've downloaded the tool from elsewhere but I don't have the "USB-Boot" files. Are those Windows 98 boot files?
I've found Windows 98 boot files somewhere else, for the purpose of a bootable USB drive.
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I created a bootable USB drive using the HP tool and Windows 98 boot files from another website. I tested it and yeah, it booted into the USB drive so this is fine. However, I extracted the firmware update's ISO image into the USB drive and this did nothing - the firmware update tool did not start up. I also tried moving all of the firmware update files to the root of the USB drive, rather than within the default-created "BOOT\\ISOLINUX" subfolders. Still, no firmware update tool startup!
Any ideas?
My SSD arrives tomorrow. Obviously in the worst case scenario I just use a CD, but I actually feel bad wasting a CD (not for their monetary value), hahaha.
    
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I created a bootable USB drive using the HP tool and Windows 98 boot files from another website. I tested it and yeah, it booted into the USB drive so this is fine. However, I extracted the firmware update's ISO image into the USB drive and this did nothing - the firmware update tool did not start up. I also tried moving all of the firmware update files to the root of the USB drive, rather than within the default-created "BOOT\\ISOLINUX" subfolders. Still, no firmware update tool startup!
Any ideas?
My SSD arrives tomorrow. Obviously in the worst case scenario I just use a CD, but I actually feel bad wasting a CD (not for their monetary value), hahaha.

I finally managed to use that update method with the 007 FW on my previous 64GB C300 to fix stuttering issues, it made it worse and couldnt revert back to FW 006 Got a 128gb instead and no matter what ive tried CD/CDRW/USB stick ive not been able to get the FW update to run. Maybe a good job as the SSD is fine, and updating may make issues where none exist.

Dont know if its the same with the M4 id be sure to check the corsair forum b4 upgrading in case issues can arise from updating. You can always update after you have the drive up and running if there are issues
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I created a bootable USB drive using the HP tool and Windows 98 boot files from another website. I tested it and yeah, it booted into the USB drive so this is fine. However, I extracted the firmware update's ISO image into the USB drive and this did nothing - the firmware update tool did not start up. I also tried moving all of the firmware update files to the root of the USB drive, rather than within the default-created "BOOT\\ISOLINUX" subfolders. Still, no firmware update tool startup!
Any ideas?
My SSD arrives tomorrow. Obviously in the worst case scenario I just use a CD, but I actually feel bad wasting a CD (not for their monetary value), hahaha.
When you got to the step where you copy over the firmware files to the flash drive, did you just copy the image or did you extract the image and copy the contents to the drive? You need to extract the image first. That is my best guess as to why it did not work. It would at least start the utility and say you do not have an M4 installed.

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I finally managed to use that update method with the 007 FW on my previous 64GB C300 to fix stuttering issues, it made it worse and couldnt revert back to FW 006 Got a 128gb instead and no matter what ive tried CD/CDRW/USB stick ive not been able to get the FW update to run. Maybe a good job as the SSD is fine, and updating may make issues where none exist.

Dont know if its the same with the M4 id be sure to check the corsair forum b4 upgrading in case issues can arise from updating. You can always update after you have the drive up and running if there are issues
I flashed my C300 128 with 007 using a usb as described above. I could not do it on a CD. I could not do it on a cd in achi or ide mode. The only way I got mine to work was usb. The benchmarks were slightly better though after the flash but who cares!!! The drive was plenty fast enough, so if you are not having problems, don't do it.
 
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When you got to the step where you copy over the firmware files to the flash drive, did you just copy the image or did you extract the image and copy the contents to the drive? You need to extract the image first. That is my best guess as to why it did not work. It would at least start the utility and say you do not have an M4 installed.
I actually extracted the ISO image, yeah. I copied the ISO's contents to the pre-formatted (with boot files) USB drive. When I booted off it, all I got was the standard DOS screen of Windows 98 with "C:\\" (the USB drive in this case). The same thing happened when I put all of the ISO image's files into the root of the USB drive (rather than keeping the subfolder structure it comes with by default).
    
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