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EA violates their agreement with Steam intentionally = getting another big title removed from their competitor without dirtying their hands.

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Originally Posted by Telimektar View Post
Maybe but then why is Steam the only one to have those outrageous prices ? Other digital download stores usually also have higher prices than retail (which dioesn't make any sense, why would you pay more to have less ?) but that's nothing compared to Steam.
Well, I feel sorry for you, but to better understand why so many people love Steam, you have to look at the situation here in the US and Canada.

For example, I bought BFBC2 in December for $20; the item was not on sale. Now the Futureshop or BestBuy as well as the Gamestop nearby (electronic/games stores) sold the same game for $50-$60 (new) and $40-45 (used). And so, the digital copy was by far the cheapest.

So while the opposite may be happening in Europe, in N.A. digital games are nearly always cheaper than retail, and looking at all digital stores when I buy games, I tend to find that Steam has very competitive prices.

Also, the Midweek and Weekend sales on Steam make games so cheap it's irresistible - during Ubisoft week and EA week they were selling games so cheap I couldn't stop buying them (same with the last Summer sale).
Edited by born2bwild - 6/18/11 at 5:38pm
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EA violates their agreement with Steam intentionally = getting another big title removed from their competitor without dirtying their hands.

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It has already been reported Alice is back on Steam and Crytek violated their agreement with Valve, not EA. EA will clear up this up and Crysis 2 will return to Steam at some point. The "new rules" as Valve call it could make it tough for future games to use Origin and Steam simultaneously as a distributor.

Checked for failure.
Edited by WorldExclusive - 6/18/11 at 7:56pm
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Unfortunately, Crytek has an agreement with another download service which violates the new rules from Steam and resulted in its expulsion of Crysis 2 from Steam.
What a load of crap...

This is just EA's excuse to experiment and see how many people they can force to use their service for this particular game, and will probably implement it for all their games if it manages to get enough people to do this.
    
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What a load of crap...

This is just EA's excuse to experiment and see how many people they can force to use their service for this particular game, and will probably implement it for all their games if it manages to get enough people to do this.
I will have to agree with other posters on this thread that there seems to be a large amount of fanboism towards Steam. When EA appeared to be at fault everyone jumped down their throats...now that it is steam everyone and their dog coming out of the wood work to defend.

It makes no logical sense how it can be EAs fault when EVERY singles other online distributor sells Crysis 2 with no problems other than Steam. You can find pre-orders for BF3 everywhere other than Steam!?

Steam may be puffed up on themselves that they are number 1 online distributor but they forget one major thing. EA and Activision are the 2 major forces in video gaming industry. Activision ****s out Valve entire profit on TF2, Portal 1-2, and Half-Life 2 with the release of a COD game or 6months worth of WoW subs. I have a strong belief that Activison will soon follow the blizzard store model and stop selling there games on Steam. If Steam alienates Ea then what do they have left.

O wait i will have steam to buy indie games...and ubisoft i guess...WAIT those Valve exclusives!!!! rofl...rofl...

Lets be honest. Steam needs EA AND Activision more than they need Steam. Both companies produce game strong enough to get customer to come over and use there respective distribution channels.
Edited by esco - 6/18/11 at 9:05pm
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I also thought EA was going to be behind this... pretty sad Steam. Either way this isn't generating positive PR for any of the companies involved.
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I will have to agree with other posters on this thread that there seems to be a large amount of fanboism towards Steam. When EA appeared to be at fault everyone jumped down their throats...now that it is steam everyone and their dog coming out of the wood work to defend.

It makes no logical sense how it can be EAs fault when EVERY singles other online distributor sells Crysis 2 with no problems other than Steam. You can find pre-orders for BF3 everywhere other than Steam!?

Steam may be puffed up on themselves that they are number 1 online distributor but they forget one major thing. EA and Activision are the 2 major forces in video gaming industry. Activision ****s out Valve entire profit on TF2, Portal 1-2, and Half-Life 2 with the release of a COD game or 6months worth of WoW subs. I have a strong belief that Activison will soon follow the blizzard store model and stop selling there games on Steam. If Steam alienates Ea then what do they have left.

O wait i will have steam to buy indie games...and ubisoft i guess...WAIT those Valve exclusives!!!! rofl...rofl...

Lets be honest. Steam needs EA AND Activision more than they need Steam. Both companies produce game strong enough to get customer to come over and use there respective distribution channels.
Well Said.
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Well, I feel sorry for you, but to better understand why so many people love Steam, you have to look at the situation here in the US and Canada.

For example, I bought BFBC2 in December for $20; the item was not on sale. Now the Futureshop or BestBuy as well as the Gamestop nearby (electronic/games stores) sold the same game for $50-$60 (new) and $40-45 (used). And so, the digital copy was by far the cheapest.

So while the opposite may be happening in Europe, in N.A. digital games are nearly always cheaper than retail, and looking at all digital stores when I buy games, I tend to find that Steam has very competitive prices.

Also, the Midweek and Weekend sales on Steam make games so cheap it's irresistible - during Ubisoft week and EA week they were selling games so cheap I couldn't stop buying them (same with the last Summer sale).
Don't get me wrong, I love Steam when it comes to Week-end deals (just watch my collection and you'll see )

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/7...94449966/games

But I never buy a newly released game on Steam, not only can I find cheaper in retal stores, but I also have the box and whatnot. What I find truly puzzling is that I saw on multiples forums peole justifying their more expensives Steam purchases compared to retail just because the game was on Steam and to them it was a truly important thing.

I'm also a huge retro gamer and last monday I wanted to buy MDK, preferably on Steam because I have most of my games on it, but I noticed that MDK was 10€ on Steam compared to $6 on GoG, Valve doesn't even try to have competitive prices and that truly scares me if they really becomes the only digital publishers like so many people here want them to be.
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Don't get me wrong, I love Steam when it comes to Week-end deals (just watch my collection and you'll see )

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/7...94449966/games

But I never buy a newly released game on Steam, not only can I find cheaper in retal stores, but I also have the box and whatnot. What I find truly puzzling is that I saw on multiples forums peole justifying their more expensives Steam purchases compared to retail just because the game was on Steam and to them it was a truly important thing.

I'm also a huge retro gamer and last monday I wanted to buy MDK, preferably on Steam because I have most of my games on it, but I noticed that MDK was 10€ on Steam compared to $6 on GoG, Valve doesn't even try to have competitive prices and that truly scares me if they really becomes the only digital publishers like so many people here want them to be.
yup. Steam doesnt even worry about trying to have competitive prices. They apply a steam tax, well pay more because you already use us. I buy from steam when they have sales, but i can find games cheaper everywhere else even at launch compared to steam.

I dont think anyone dislikes steam, but it is definitely not gods gift to PC gaming that some people blindly believe. Such as the people who are willing to boycott a game because it doesnt come to steam. Seriously, steam has nothing to do with the development of the game, and nothing to do with how good it is. To deny yourself a game as good as the witcher, simply because it isnt on steam(it is, just an example) would be absolutely stupid, but people are still willing to do it.

I work in the car business, the best thing to ever happen to us is when a customer says, i dont even look anywhere else now. Great, that means dont get as good of a discount. Steam feels the same way.
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The shady DLC promotions and the fallout between Valve and EA is really sad IMO. PC gaming isn't PC gaming anymore. For far too long, the EA has only cared about finagling console content to the PC without making PC content that keeps up with current technology. Look at Crysis 2 and Dragon Age 2 and the numerous other PC games that have followed this path of dumbing down for profit; and now they want to squabble over how the DLC is distributed for PC content. All of this in the guise that PC gaming isn't profitable. . Whatever.
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