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violates the new rules. Sounds like Steam changed the rules and crytek/ea could not adjust to them because of other agreements.

If they were old rules, then crysis would have never have been offered to start. which is likely the reason we have never seen battlefield 3 on steam, but we see it on other retailers. Battlefield 3 likely has the same DLC distribution deal that crysis had. Which makes it invalid to sell based on steams new rules they added.[/
And 'new' is all subjective. Only EA has said anything about this, and hasn't gone into any detail whatsoever (though they may not be able to). Until we hear a response from Steam or CryTek about this, this is all simply speculation.

And who knows, it could have been an old rule, and then CryTek decided to make DLC for it which went against that rule.

Point is, we don't know either way, so all the pro-Valve/anti-Valve spouting is pointless.
 
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And 'new' is all subjective. Only EA has said anything about this, and hasn't gone into any detail whatsoever (though they may not be able to). Until we hear a response from Steam or CryTek about this, this is all simply speculation.

And who knows, it could have been an old rule, and then CryTek decided to make DLC for it which went against that rule.

Point is, we don't know either way, so all the pro-Valve/anti-Valve spouting is pointless.
DLC would have been discussed when the game the game was originally added to steams catalogue. The wording definately points the blame at Steam.

I find it hard to believe that Steam is being the good guy in all this, when the game is available on all other retailers still. If it had been dropped from multiple retailers, i would be more likely to consider it was EA being the bad guy.
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steam, you put a nail in my heart... but like a fool in love I will give you another chance.
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DLC would have been discussed when the game the game was originally added to steams catalogue. The wording definately points the blame at Steam.

I find it hard to believe that Steam is being the good guy in all this, when the game is available on all other retailers still. If it had been dropped from multiple retailers, i would be more likely to consider it was EA being the bad guy.
I'm not saying Steam or EA is bad-guy/good-guy. I'm saying we only have a fraction of the story, and all of this is hearsay, including your opinion, (and mine).

I just have a gut feeling that CryTek decided to do something with this DLC today that went against the ruleset. And come on, be honest... do you REALLY think the rule that they broke JUST came about today? The release day for DLC? Really? I very much doubt that.
 
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All i know is... This will be another 30+ page thread... and I dont have enough wine for that .
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I'm not saying Steam or EA is bad-guy/good-guy. I'm saying we only have a fraction of the story, and all of this is hearsay, including your opinion, (and mine).

I just have a gut feeling that CryTek decided to do something with this DLC today that went against the ruleset. And come on, be honest... do you REALLY think the rule that they broke JUST came about today? The release day for DLC? Really? I very much doubt that.
no, i think it was broken a while ago, but it never came up until the DLC was ready for launch. I would bet steam sat down and explained all the rules when the game was first to be released, and EA/crytek all agreed to it. Possibly the rules had changed since then, and then when the new DLC was ready to come out. Steam said hey these are the rules now.

Otherwise we would likely see more than just steam removing the game, if Steam felt that they had purposely breached it.

We are all just assuming things. i do agree there, but considering what we knew yesterday, and what we know today, thats how i base my opinion on the matter. Taking into account the things we know.
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no, i think it was broken a while ago, but it never came up until the DLC was ready for launch. I would bet steam sat down and explained all the rules when the game was first to be released, and EA/crytek all agreed to it. Possibly the rules had changed since then, and then when the new DLC was ready to come out. Steam said hey these are the rules now.

Otherwise we would likely see more than just steam removing the game, if Steam felt that they had purposely breached it.

We are all just assuming things. i do agree there, but considering what we knew yesterday, and what we know today, thats how i base my opinion on the matter. Taking into account the things we know.
That I can agree with. I look at it like a kid that got banned from WoW for breaking the ToS then complaining he didn't read them like it makes any difference.

If the rules did change after the initial agreement, by law, Valve would have had to have discussed it with EA/CryTek and they would have had to agree again.

If this didn't happen, the blame could lie with any party involved... ie, Valve not discussing it, EA/CryTek just agreeing automatically, or just plain not agreeing.

Until we hear from the other 2 parties involved, all of this talk from EA doesn't matter.
 
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That I can agree with. I look at it like a kid that got banned from WoW for breaking the ToS then complaining he didn't read them like it makes any difference.

If the rules did change after the initial agreement, by law, Valve would have had to have discussed it with EA/CryTek and they would have had to agree again.

If this didn't happen, the blame could lie with any party involved... ie, Valve not discussing it, EA/CryTek just agreeing automatically, or just plain not agreeing.

Until we hear from the other 2 parties involved, all of this talk from EA doesn't matter.
it absolutely does... since EA is the publisher for the game... that means digital publishing as well as any other versions.
    
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So does that mean the BF3 won't be Origin exclusive?

Honestly even if Steam doesn't get BF3 that won't bother me so much. The only thing that really would have bothered me is if Origin was the only place to buy their games digitally. If they still offer it on D2D, Amazon, etc then I have no beef.
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steam, you put a nail in my heart... but like a fool in love I will give you another chance.
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