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post #11 of 18
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Hmmm, the 295 is still a fast card, close to a GTX 470 stock which in turn is faster than a GTX 560.

I would wait for Kepler. There's no info on it because hardware manufacturers don't like bragging about their products 4-5 months in advance. No one knew anything solid about Fermi until a few weeks before launch.
Alright. I'll keep that in mind. If I can get a decent $100 out of this 295 I'll think about upgrading for the $70 it'll cost me to a 470. Just until Kepler comes along.
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470 is slower than your current card, it can OC higher but it really is not worth $70 to go from a 295 to a 470. Like I said before to get an actual upgrade you would need a 580 but you really shouldn't need an upgrade until Kepler comes out as there still aren't that many DX11 games, and even fewer that can only be run in DX11.
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A few points of fact:

1) The 295 is pretty close to 480/570 performance. Even a 560ti is at best a side grade, most games it'd likely be a slight downgrade, as would be a 470 (although 470's are monster OC'ers).
2) The 560 non-Ti is obviously not as fast as a Ti. It may be able to match it with a large OC, but the Ti can OC to be quite a bit faster.
3) You'd not be losing memory, you'd be gaining memory. The GTX295 has an effective memory capacity of 896MB, the 560 has 1GB.
4) The general consensus I've seen is that the 560 non-Ti is overpriced for what you get.
5) What your friends are telling you is wrong. Not every 500-series card is > GTX295. A 570 is marginally better, and of course a 580 is considerably better. But the 560's are, like I say, a sidegrade at best, in terms of performance. They do run quite bit cooler/quieter though, and have DX11.

Bottom-line this would be a fairly significant downgrade in perf, and you're going to be spending money to do it, plus dealing w/the hassle of selling your current card/shipping it to someone, etc.

Unless there's some game that you just HAVE to play in DX11 mode ... I would think twice about this move. As mentioned above, anything less than a 580 is not really going to perform noticeably better ... and even that is a horrible 'bang for buck' proposition unless you can sell your 295 for a REAL nice price.
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unless you can sell your 295 for a REAL nice price.
^This is a key consideration, IMHO.

Additionally, I would not consider that EVGA GTX560 mentioned in the OP.
I would rather have one of these three GTX560 Ti below, especially the Galaxy's:-

a) PNY $205 (after MIR) with free shipping
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16814133384

b) Galaxy $181 (after MIR) with $11.5 shipping
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16814162074

c) Zotac $193 (after MIR) with $11.5 shipping
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16814500197
post #15 of 18
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A few points of fact:

1) The 295 is pretty close to 480/570 performance. Even a 560ti is at best a side grade, most games it'd likely be a slight downgrade, as would be a 470 (although 470's are monster OC'ers).
2) The 560 non-Ti is obviously not as fast as a Ti. It may be able to match it with a large OC, but the Ti can OC to be quite a bit faster.
3) You'd not be losing memory, you'd be gaining memory. The GTX295 has an effective memory capacity of 896MB, the 560 has 1GB.
4) The general consensus I've seen is that the 560 non-Ti is overpriced for what you get.
5) What your friends are telling you is wrong. Not every 500-series card is > GTX295. A 570 is marginally better, and of course a 580 is considerably better. But the 560's are, like I say, a sidegrade at best, in terms of performance. They do run quite bit cooler/quieter though, and have DX11.

Bottom-line this would be a fairly significant downgrade in perf, and you're going to be spending money to do it, plus dealing w/the hassle of selling your current card/shipping it to someone, etc.

Unless there's some game that you just HAVE to play in DX11 mode ... I would think twice about this move. As mentioned above, anything less than a 580 is not really going to perform noticeably better ... and even that is a horrible 'bang for buck' proposition unless you can sell your 295 for a REAL nice price.
The 295 has 1792MB of memory. But I hear what people are saying. I knew my 295 was still hella fast! I'm just worried about BF3 and not being able to play it in DX11. But worst case I can wait the few months for Kepler. I really wish we would hear something about it. Launch dates and so forth.
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The 295 has 1792MB of memory. But I hear what people are saying. I knew my 295 was still hella fast! I'm just worried about BF3 and not being able to play it in DX11. But worst case I can wait the few months for Kepler. I really wish we would hear something about it. Launch dates and so forth.
But the 295 shares that VRam between the two cards giving you an effective memory capacity of 896MB
Just like brettjv said
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post #17 of 18
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But the 295 shares that VRam between the two cards giving you an effective memory capacity of 896MB
Just like brettjv said
But wouldn't the effective memory combine? GTA 4 says I have all of it available.
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post #18 of 18
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But wouldn't the effective memory combine? GTA 4 says I have all of it available.
Think: memory per GPU.
The 1792MB is divided between 2 GPUs for the GTX295. This means, each GPU has its own 896MB only.
For a GTX560(Ti), the 1GB VRAM is for the single GPU.
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