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I am not new to building PCs ground up, just Overclocking as before none of it was mine and didnt wanna chance the failures. . . It is now mine and I want to push what I get to the max. . Things I am looking to get answers to is the following. . .

-- 1: Will have a lower model Mobo such as 880g or 870 going to limit my clocking potential?

-- 2: Will have 4x dual channel memory clock less effectively then 2x Dual channel 4Gb sticks? *(Heard some people talking about how AMDs dual channel clocks better with 2x, along with Intels Trichannel works better in triples)*

-- 3: With my SINGLE!!!! SINGLE!!!! 6990 or GTX 590 *(Whichever I find first for 650ish)* And 1090T or 1100T CPU and whichever RAM mix is going to work best whats good # to stop on for PSU? I was thinking 800W.

-- 4: Can anyone show me some SOLID graphs and charts proving which Thermal Paste performs best.? Thermal Paste is among the top 3 most important things for OC. *(Less Heat=More Limits)*

!!EDIT!!
-- 5: Is a Seperate SSD *(64-128GB)* really going to be worth the 130 extra money? I mean I am trying to skimp anywhere possible to justify this GROSS drop of cash on 6990 or 590. Where can I find good comparisons of 7200RPM 64MB Cache HDD vs SSD on load/Start up or even MASSIVE file transfers?
Edited by 8-Bit - 6/15/11 at 1:14pm
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#1 Yes, this is for many different reason. Bios options, chipset speeds, I/O options(nothing to do with OCing really), un-adequate cooling for VRAM/Northbridge/Southbridge. Go with a higher end board pays off.

#2 Yes Dual channel has been tested to be better for AMD overclocking. Go with low CAS Latency Ram 6-7, 1600Mhz is a great spot for RAM speed for AMD rigs. They perform better with lower timings opposed to higher speeds like Intel.

#3 750+ Should be just fine. Dont be cheap. Buy Cosair/Silverstone something good.

#4 There are plenty of discussions about this. Search function in forum works great. Google is also awesome! Top 4 are really going to be Shin Etsu, Arctic Silver 5, MX-4, OCZ-Freeze. You cant really go wrong with those. I'd say Shin Etsu and AS5 are my favorite to use.

#5 SSD's are the biggest improvement to overall PC speeds since sliced bread. What I mean by this is yes it is totally worth dropping the xtra money if you have it.
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Well sir, for being the only person kind enough to answer my noob questions I am so Rep +'ing you. . I appreciate your help. As for PSUs I am looking at a Antec 750W w/ modular cords cause i hate extra ones i dont use clogging up my NXZT's case
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On thermal paste, mx-4 has served me well, done quite a bit of research into it, there really is not much between the top names if they were all applied EXACTLY the same the differences would be marginal between mx-4, as5 etc. ive never used shin etsu but heard its really good if a little more difficult to apply.
750W will be more than enough for that setup, unless you plan on going on a ridiculous xf 6990s setup ever lol.

on ssds I got a 64gb crucial m4 for my boot drive and it is awesome, definitely worth it. got it for £90. high end cpus, gpus etc will be great for increasing performance in your gaming/high process usage applications, however I think general windows browsing benefits most from an ssd.

on the ram I have read AMD systems benefit more from tighter timings than higher frequencies, however I have never had an AMD system and no little about them.
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Well sir, for being the only person kind enough to answer my noob questions I am so Rep +'ing you. . I appreciate your help. As for PSUs I am looking at a Antec 750W w/ modular cords cause i hate extra ones i dont use clogging up my NXZT's case
It may not be that no one else was kind enough, but because they didn't know the answers to your questions.
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i know, i know. but someone was gonna say this at some point.

Sandy bridge.

Why not get it?
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I would also look at the Seasonic X750. That is fully modular and is an exceptional PSU.

Heres a review:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151087
    
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Well I am going to be doing these upgrades in the very very Near future
*(IF I DO NOT! RMA my who new rig in my SIG I will be doing these)*
1-- 6990 *(Diamond Media)*
2-- 750W PSU
3-- New Mobo/RAM !!OR!! Swapping the 1055T w/ Mobo and 2x extra DIMM slots from my moms rig, she won't notice it, even if she were to use the Desktop instead of her Laptop
4-- Overclocking my CPU/RAM After upgrade or swap
*(If I RMA my Discount Gamer)*
1--New Base Unit *(Full running PC)* for 650-700 Before Radeon 6990
--A) Atleast a 880G Mobo maybe 890
--B) 8-16GB DRR3 1600 RAM
--C) 800W PSU *(Rosewell/Corsair/Antec)*
--D) 1090T/1100T CPU
--E) 64/128GB SSD
2--Radeon 6990
3--Use Paypals Bill me Later option so I dont need to sell a kidney
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Originally Posted by Lindyrig View Post
#1 Yes, this is for many different reason. Bios options, chipset speeds, I/O options(nothing to do with OCing really), un-adequate cooling for VRAM/Northbridge/Southbridge. Go with a higher end board pays off.

#2 Yes Dual channel has been tested to be better for AMD overclocking. Go with low CAS Latency Ram 6-7, 1600Mhz is a great spot for RAM speed for AMD rigs. They perform better with lower timings opposed to higher speeds like Intel.

#3 750+ Should be just fine. Dont be cheap. Buy Cosair/Silverstone something good.

#4 There are plenty of discussions about this. Search function in forum works great. Google is also awesome! Top 4 are really going to be Shin Etsu, Arctic Silver 5, MX-4, OCZ-Freeze. You cant really go wrong with those. I'd say Shin Etsu and AS5 are my favorite to use.

#5 SSD's are the biggest improvement to overall PC speeds since sliced bread. What I mean by this is yes it is totally worth dropping the xtra money if you have it.
Well, i must say, pretty everything stated here is true.

#1 A nice mobo is almost a necessity for OCers.

#2 Dual Channel is highly preferred. And, i guess AMD Phenoms seem to really like lower latencies more than anything in RAM.

#3 Yes, 750+ is plenty for a build like this. MAKE DOUBLE SURE that you have a good quality PSU.

#4 ALL true OCers here are going to recommend you to use a thermal paste. what cooler are you going to use?

#5 SSDs do make the PC seem so much snappier. Windows loads almost instantly, as well.
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It may not be that no one else was kind enough, but because they didn't know the answers to your questions.
Or frankly we didn't care .
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