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post #1261 of 1907
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Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ View Post

Then why does it matter? I've heard lowfat say that "flowrates are over rated" a few times and I agree with that.

You're making things bigger than it is or maybe you're not understanding my comments. Let me give you the short version: better flow, less work on pump, happier pump, longer living pump smile.gif. That's my take. No one ever said anything about thermal performance. If you don't agree, fine by me, I won't try to convince you any further.

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edit: in terms of selecting a pump for most water cooling applications spec flow rate is no longer a major concern. Pressure is what you want to look at for a complex (multi block, rad, angled fittings, etc.).
Edited by wermad - 10/27/12 at 12:48am
post #1262 of 1907
Hey fellas!! I have been looking for a case karge enough to fit a custom hybrid closed loop water cooling system and I seem to keep coming back to this one. I thought it would be the Azza genesis 9000 but it's just too "fancy" for my tastes and this one just looks beefier. I plan to add another 120 by 49mm rad to my current antec kuhler 920 setup and also an asatek dual pump/block for my x-fire cards as well. Will also need room for my dual bay res and current hardware as well. I just wanted to get a few opinions from ppl that actually own these cases to make sure I'll have the room for it all.
Dang thing is, I literally just bought a Zalman Z11 Plus HF1 a month ago because it was on sale for 60 and I thought I could make it work. NOT!! It's just not the case that it appeared to be, build quality and otherwise so my sons' will get it. Here's my setup that I plan to transfer and where I'd like to put the rad's. (they're both 120 by49mm). I also have a smaller rad that came from a coolermaster aqua duo viva that I'd like to find a spot for as well if possible.

Thanks to all that advise me on the cases' build quality and space!!.

Dual 120 by 49 mm radiators. Also an 130 by 29mm one that COULD mount in a card slot.
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Thanks again
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post #1263 of 1907
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Originally Posted by oldcompgeek View Post

Hey fellas!! I have been looking for a case karge enough to fit a custom hybrid closed loop water cooling system and I seem to keep coming back to this one. I thought it would be the Azza genesis 9000 but it's just too "fancy" for my tastes and this one just looks beefier. I plan to add another 120 by 49mm rad to my current antec kuhler 920 setup and also an asatek dual pump/block for my x-fire cards as well. Will also need room for my dual bay res and current hardware as well. I just wanted to get a few opinions from ppl that actually own these cases to make sure I'll have the room for it all.
Dang thing is, I literally just bought a Zalman Z11 Plus HF1 a month ago because it was on sale for 60 and I thought I could make it work. NOT!! It's just not the case that it appeared to be, build quality and otherwise so my sons' will get it. Here's my setup that I plan to transfer and where I'd like to put the rad's. (they're both 120 by49mm). I also have a smaller rad that came from a coolermaster aqua duo viva that I'd like to find a spot for as well if possible.
Thanks to all that advise me on the cases' build quality and space!!.
Dual 120 by 49 mm radiators. Also an 130 by 29mm one that COULD mount in a card slot.
MSI 990fxa-gd80 mobo -- 8 gb kingston hyper-x 1866 lg ht sinks -- Phenom II Thuban 1100 -- Antec HCG p. supply
Dual bay res with led's -- two burners -- two 80 gig W.D. Velociraptors raid 0 -- two W.D. Black 750 gig storage -- Powercolor 6850/ Sapphire 6870 C.F. With h20 pump blocks on them -- 6 Lepa Casino 1c fans -- T.V. TUNER CARD -- USB card --
Thanks again

Build quality is good as is features.

Space is the biggest plus of the Elysium. I'm harboring three huge Monsta rads (86mm thick!) with a simple mod. You'll have plenty of space for a loop, small, medium, or large.

I would recommend go with a custom loop and sell the Kuhler. Its easier when your using a pieced loop as changing things in a future will be very easy. There's lots of starter kits out there (ie Rasa kit) or just buy preowned to keep the costs down.
post #1264 of 1907
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Originally Posted by wermad View Post

You're making things bigger than it is or maybe you're not understanding my comments. Let me give you the short version: better flow, less work on pump, happier pump, longer living pump smile.gif. That's my take. No one ever said anything about thermal performance. If you don't agree, fine by me, I won't try to convince you any further.
cheers.gif

Actually according to martin's testing a DDC puts out less heat at lower flowrates. There is a reason that you don't want your flowrates too high either. Either way I doubt that a couple of extra feet would even make a measurable difference in flowrates anyways.
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post #1265 of 1907
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Build quality is good as is features.
Space is the biggest plus of the Elysium. I'm harboring three huge Monsta rads (86mm thick!) with a simple mod. You'll have plenty of space for a loop, small, medium, or large.
I would recommend go with a custom loop and sell the Kuhler. Its easier when your using a pieced loop as changing things in a future will be very easy. There's lots of starter kits out there (ie Rasa kit) or just buy preowned to keep the costs down.

I appreciate the advice and information. The thing is, I have 6 kids and having the cash for a custom loop isn't possible right now...lol. I already have the dual bay res (used from a friend) and the 920. I also got the asatek dual cpu/gpu pump/rad unit for 60 bucks to put them both on my cards. So instead of running them seperately, I just thought I'd buy some tubing and whatever type of connectors and clamps so that I could make it look saweeet as well as UV fluid and lights. That shouldn't be too much $$$. Then I could mount one 120 x 49 rad in dvd bay like usual, and the Xigmatek case would be large enough to mount the other 120 x 49 rad either up top or maybe bottom, or at the rear exhaust location if I had to. With all three places having pumps inside the blocks it should still have excellent flow rates. Shoot, I could probably even add a block for the VRM's as well and still keep good flow rates!! Here's the stuff that I coul
I bought:: I'd have the cooler master stuff extra to maybe incorporate it somewhere in the future.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Asetek-760GC-Combo-Liquid-Cooler-NVIDIA-GTX-470-480-570-580-/280965116990?pt=US_CPU_Fans_Heatsinks&hash=item416ad3743e

http://www.ebay.com/itm/COOLERMASTER-Aquagate-Duo-Viva-INTEL-AMD-CPU-NVIDIA-8800-ATI-HD3850-/221140664987?pt=US_Video_Card_GPU_Cooling&hash=item337d02c29b
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post #1266 of 1907
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Actually according to martin's testing a DDC puts out less heat at lower flowrates. There is a reason that you don't want your flowrates too high either. Either way I doubt that a couple of extra feet would even make a measurable difference in flowrates anyways.

You're still concentrating on flowrate, which is not my point. Its work load.

That's the 35x via pwm. I have one. Mine isn't working right or pwm is a pita to setup up. It does get hot. Its the hottest ddc I've owned. A 3.2 and 3.1 run much cooler at full throttle. You can use a controller to drop the voltage on the 3.1 and 3.2. The 3.25 (ie mcp 35x) will run ~50-60% via pwm which has the best performance and is far cooler at this range. After my experience with the 35x, I don't recommend it. I would rather get a 3.2.

Alright, I'm going to stop here with this debacle you're willing to continue. You can argue among yourself as I really don't need to elaborate anymore on my point.
Edited by wermad - 10/27/12 at 2:04pm
post #1267 of 1907
All because the guy put a window on his case.........

please guys with water cooling. if it runs cooler then air its a win rolleyes.gifwheee.gif


*oldcompgeek

the elysium is one of those cases you buy to do a project you have in mind, then when you get it, you go..... stuff this i can now do this project and fit twice as much stuff in it. Its an endless option case imo. you will have fun with it, and modding buy the NON window case its better to make windows with.,
have fun building thumb.gif
Edited by kingchris - 10/27/12 at 3:35pm
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post #1268 of 1907
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I appreciate the advice and information. The thing is, I have 6 kids and having the cash for a custom loop isn't possible right now...lol. I already have the dual bay res (used from a friend) and the 920. I also got the asatek dual cpu/gpu pump/rad unit for 60 bucks to put them both on my cards. So instead of running them seperately, I just thought I'd buy some tubing and whatever type of connectors and clamps so that I could make it look saweeet as well as UV fluid and lights. That shouldn't be too much $$$. Then I could mount one 120 x 49 rad in dvd bay like usual, and the Xigmatek case would be large enough to mount the other 120 x 49 rad either up top or maybe bottom, or at the rear exhaust location if I had to. With all three places having pumps inside the blocks it should still have excellent flow rates. Shoot, I could probably even add a block for the VRM's as well and still keep good flow rates!! Here's the stuff that I coul
I bought:: I'd have the cooler master stuff extra to maybe incorporate it somewhere in the future.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Asetek-760GC-Combo-Liquid-Cooler-NVIDIA-GTX-470-480-570-580-/280965116990?pt=US_CPU_Fans_Heatsinks&hash=item416ad3743e
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COOLERMASTER-Aquagate-Duo-Viva-INTEL-AMD-CPU-NVIDIA-8800-ATI-HD3850-/221140664987?pt=US_Video_Card_GPU_Cooling&hash=item337d02c29b

With a little thought and now how, you can make it work. The Elysium is a great canvas for creative water cooling.

I did my final upgrade since I have a second child incoming soon so no more big spending on my expensive hobby tongue.gif
post #1269 of 1907
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All because the guy put a window on his case.........
please guys with water cooling. if it runs cooler then air its a win rolleyes.gifwheee.gif
*oldcompgeek
the elysium is one of those cases you buy to do a project you have in mind, then when you get it, you go..... stuff this i can now do this project and fit twice as much stuff in it. Its an endless option case imo. you will have fun with it, and modding buy the NON window case its better to make windows with.,
have fun building thumb.gif

Well, i've learned the hard way this time around... I should've just looked alot harder BEFORE buying!! I started 2 months ago after deciding on a Sentey Arvina which I got for $89 shipped instead of 120 and thought that was my future case. Of course, dimensions only don't dictate expandibility so last month I caught a Zalman Z11 HF1 at a crazy cheap price of 60 bucks delivered but it's been even worse, especially the headaches trying to mod it. Now, that case is going to my sons and finally I think that I got it right going with this xigmatek. Just wish I would've done this research at the beginning. This case looks huge and should give me the room and expandibility that I need. At least I can have the room for a triple rad in the future when I can afford one. Thanks again!!
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post #1270 of 1907
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Originally Posted by wermad View Post

With a little thought and now how, you can make it work. The Elysium is a great canvas for creative water cooling.
I did my final upgrade since I have a second child incoming soon so no more big spending on my expensive hobby tongue.gif

Did you get ur window mod factory diy kit or do it yourself from like frozen cpu or sum'n? Was just corious because there is one with a built in window at newegg that doesn't look too bad. Of course, the ones at frozen cpu look MUCH sweeter!! I just don't have anyone around here that can cut window holes accurately enough for a tight fit and I'd be worried about them possibly damaging the painted finish or bending the steel. I think i'll just get the one with the window and just do alot of painting after stripping the case totally apart, clear coat it, then reassemble. Probably going with a blue/black or green/black scheme. I have been wanting to just paint all of the grille materials with blue, then a UV coating, then clear acrylic. It should look pretty sweet with that ofdfsetting the black. Then maybe a cling decal thats blue UV as well from frozen. Probably an "x" design to match somewhat the xigmatek logo.
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