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Last week Apple Inc.’s Steve Jobs made news again, announcing the dawn of iCloud at Apple’s Worldwide Developers Conference. By outsourcing storage to remote servers, cloud computing eliminates the need to save data on a hard drive or other storage device and allows users to more easily share files with others across the internet. Imagine managing all your music, photos, and work documents from a single location; no more emailing yourself documents or using a thumb drive to relocate files. With iCloud, music lovers could access their music from any device that logs in with an Apple ID.
source: http://sacurrent.com/apple-joining-g...loud-1.1162034
 
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Security is virtually non-existent on Amazon’s cloud. Amazon writes that “We do not guarantee that Your Files will not be subject to misappropriation, loss or damage and we will not be liable if they are. You’re responsible for maintaining appropriate security, protection and backup of Your Files." :S
 
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I agree with the cloud concept, but not:
"By outsourcing storage to remote servers, cloud computing eliminates the need to save data on a hard drive"

I enjoy having a copy on my HDD which is cloned onto the net. I don't want it to be exclusivly on the net :/

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Security is virtually non-existent on Amazon’s cloud. Amazon writes that “We do not guarantee that Your Files will not be subject to misappropriation, loss or damage and we will not be liable if they are. You’re responsible for maintaining appropriate security, protection and backup of Your Files." :S
What company actually does ever take responsabilty in their eulas?
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Security is virtually non-existent on Amazon’s cloud. Amazon writes that “We do not guarantee that Your Files will not be subject to misappropriation, loss or damage and we will not be liable if they are. You’re responsible for maintaining appropriate security, protection and backup of Your Files." :S
Yeah but with Apple, all of your songs/purchases are linked with your AppleID so you can get them back if they were purchased through iTunes without any problem.

Songs that are not direct from iTunes, however, may be an issue. Though people really should back up everything, even if companies say they don't need to.
    
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Umm you're like a week late on this topic....
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Songs that are not direct from iTunes, however, may be an issue. Though people really should back up everything, even if companies say they don't need to.
Exactly. Cloud is nice for a backup that is (relatively) safe. It's probably a lot more likely that my HDD will get corrupt, and my tablet/phone will get stolen than it is that Google and Amazon will simultaneously lose all my Music.

That said, anyone that leaves any personal info stored on these things is taking some serious risks. Still a nice way to make me sleep better at night knowing my 10+ years of collecting Music won't be for naught if my Apartment burns down.
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OK, so last week our internet was out for 3 days (not contiguous). I find it hard enough to exist without internet as it is, if all my files (music, movies etc) were stored online I would be at a total loss. I might even have to go outside and interact with actual people.

I actually had a 30 minute argument with an IT guy in my last job on a similar subject. They had decided that it would be a great idea to move the "My Documents" folder and all it's contents to a network drive for security and data backup. I explained that I had a laptop for the sole reason that I was expected to travel to different sites for work. They tried to say that I could use the secure network to access the files on the server. I tried to explain that it is hard to get a reliable network connection in a field in the middle of nowhere...

Phew, rant over.

Seriously though, for a lot of people the internet connection just isn't fast enough or reliable enough to use cloud storage as the only place that their files are stored, secure or not. As a backup (for non-personal files) it is a great idea, for anything else it isn't at the moment.
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The cloud when Apple gets angry.
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I'm not liking this idea as it's too much independence away from the user.

Yes, it's fine if it's a double-up system where one can upload whatever the cloud, with the hard drive always being the primary form of storage. However, having to store everything primarily over the internet on their servers? NO! A big N and O from me.

I'm considering purchasing the 2011 revision of the Macbook Air... so long as the Cloud feature is optional, and doesn't take away from things like built-in hard drive space, then I might still consider it; I simply won't be using Cloud, and refuse to. However, if it becomes a primary feature which detracts from the way I want to be using my computer, then I'm sticking with something else.
    
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