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I've recently bought my new computer which has the intel i7 970 stock.

I've never overclocked anything before so i had a few questions.

I've found a guide that will hopefully show me how to overclock.

- If i overclock it is possible to change back to stock?
- I have CoolIT Vantage A.L.C. WATER COOLING, so will this help when overclocking?
- I currently run the witcher 2 with ubersampling on and i get 15-20FPS, if i over clock should i see an increase with the FPS?
- How can i tell if i overclock to hard? will it melt/fry or just not work?

On a note, please be kind as i am new to the site and im sure there is topics already but this is the only one i could find.

Any feed back would be welcome.

Thanks!
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Did you buy a PC from a manufacturer (Like HP, Dell, etc) or someone like Cyber-PC (A gaming PC builder )?

Ok by the looks of your cooler, you either built it or bought it from a company like Cyber PC
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Did you buy a PC from a manufacturer (Like HP, Dell, etc) or someone like Cyber-PC (A gaming PC builder )?

Ok by the looks of your cooler, you either built it or bought it from a company like Cyber PC
I bought it from a company called Gr Tek, they build custom built PC's
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I bought it from a company called Gr Tek, they build custom built PC's
Ok, so that means you should be able to overclock it. I'm not really an overclocker, so that means I can't help you as much as someone more experienced may, but I can try.

1) Its possible to revert to stock settings
2) Watercooling helps with overclocking, yes. Make sure you have a fan on your VRMs though
3) There will be a notice in performance, yes, depending on how large the overclock, and how stable it is.
4) You can't overclock to "hard" but if you push the chip too far, you may cause damage to it. Intel CPUs are hardier than AMD chips, so they can be pushed further. If you push the Voltage too much, you could fry the chip. I do not know what a safe voltage is for your specific CPU, maybe someone else could help me out with that.
Edited by ZFedora - 6/15/11 at 8:23pm
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post #5 of 26
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Originally Posted by L1eutenant View Post
I've recently bought my new computer which has the intel i7 970 stock.

I've never overclocked anything before so i had a few questions.

I've found a guide that will hopefully show me how to overclock.

- If i overclock it is possible to change back to stock?
- I have CoolIT Vantage A.L.C. WATER COOLING, so will this help when overclocking?
- I currently run the witcher 2 with ubersampling on and i get 15-20FPS, if i over clock should i see an increase with the FPS?
- How can i tell if i overclock to hard? will it melt/fry or just not work?

On a note, please be kind as i am new to the site and im sure there is topics already but this is the only one i could find.

Any feed back would be welcome.

Thanks!
1) Yes, you can always change back to stock.

2) Water cooling always helps when overclocking, low temps = high overclock.

3) You would probably see a small FPS increase, however, a GPU overclock would yield higher frame rates.
EDIT: Yes, actually you will, I just saw that you have a 590, so your low clocks might be bottlenecking your card.

4) Make sure you know the max voltages for you chip, and other components in your system. Don't go above those. If you set your overclock too high, your system will simply crash. This does no harm, and is just Window's way of saying, "I'm unstable"

EDIT: As to the max voltages, I usually don't see people go above 1.45VCore with those hexas.
Edited by snelan - 6/15/11 at 8:26pm
    
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post #7 of 26
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Originally Posted by snelan View Post
1) Yes, you can always change back to stock.

2) Water cooling always helps when overclocking, low temps = high overclock.

3) You would probably see a small FPS increase, however, a GPU overclock would yield higher frame rates.

4) Make sure you know the max voltages for you chip, and other components in your system. Don't go above those. If you set your overclock too high, your system will simply crash. This does no harm, and is just Window's way of saying, "I'm unstable"
Yeah, if you set the Multiplier to high or the FSB to high, it'll just BSOD, and you can change it to a lower setting to increase stability. If you overvolt the chip, you may have caused serious damage and possibly kill the chip.
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post #8 of 26
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Originally Posted by ZFedora View Post
Ok, so that means you should be able to overclock it. I'm not really an overclocker, so that means I can't help you as much as someone more experienced may, but I can try.

1) Its possible to revert to stock settings
2) Watercooling helps with overclocking, yes. Make sure you have a fan on your VRMs though VRM's??
3) There will be a notice in performance, yes, depending on how large the overclock, and how stable it is.
4) You can't overclock to "hard" but if you push the chip too far, you may cause damage to it. Intel CPUs are hardier than AMD chips, so they can be pushed further. If you push the Voltage too much, you could fry the chip. I do not know what a safe voltage is for your specific CPU, maybe someone else could help me out with that.
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Originally Posted by snelan View Post
1) Yes, you can always change back to stock.

2) Water cooling always helps when overclocking, low temps = high overclock.

3) You would probably see a small FPS increase, however, a GPU overclock would yield higher frame rates. GPU? as in the graphics card?

4) Make sure you know the max voltages for you chip, and other components in your system. Don't go above those. If you set your overclock too high, your system will simply crash. This does no harm, and is just Window's way of saying, "I'm unstable"

EDIT: As to the max voltages, I usually don't see people go above 1.45VCore with those hexas.
And im sorry that i sound like i know nothing, that is because i know nothing!

Edit: I bought an gtx 590, i didn't think i would have to touch it....
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post #9 of 26
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And im sorry that i sound like i know nothing, that is because i know nothing!
Yes, the GPU is the Graphics Card. However, I edited my other post. I didn't see that you had a GTX 590. Your CPU is probably bottlenecking your 590. Witcher II only uses 4 cores, so even though your 970 is a six core beast, you still need to overclock for gaming.

EDIT: Yea, don't worry about the 590, it's a really powerful GPU, you shouldn't have to worry about that for at least 2 or 3 years.
    
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post #10 of 26
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And im sorry that i sound like i know nothing, that is because i know nothing!

Edit: I bought an gtx 590, i didn't think i would have to touch it....
VRMs= Voltage Regulating Modules, they can get really really hot if not properly cooled, and potentially start a fire. Watercoolers seem to be more of a victim to this because the block doesnt have a fan on it, and the VRMs get little to no cooling.
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