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Originally Posted by Levesque;13892430 
OP. Sell those 590 and buy some real power that you can OC and have fun with it if you want to. Don't let Nvidia you on a leash with their drivers.

11.4 11.5 and 11.6 are awesome, rock-stable drivers. Nvidia drivers are not ''better'' anymore.

Well, you are aware the 6990 + 6970 + 6970 isn't 6990 + 6990.

I am not quite sure what your definition of real power is since they have a tendency to be equal in terms of performance up to 2560x1600.

2x 6990 would be the smarter choice for 3x 1,000$ monitors (2560x1600) with the extra VRAM, but you are still selling yourself short on your resolution, as you know from Vegas' VRAM monitoring, he can easily go above 2GB of his 3GB cards. Especially in Metro2033.

I don't think either choice (6990s or 590s) is a good choice for maxing out games at 7680x1600, with AA, and all the EyeCandy. That's my personal opinion. Some settings are good enough for some users, and I tend to be picky and like to have high frame rates with everything maxed out.
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From the benches I have seen around in the internet, both GTX 590 and HD 6990 are on par with each other. One is faster is one situation, the other is faster in another. I also keep hearing that Eyefinity work better than Nvidia Surround but I havent tried either so I cant really comment on that. HD 6990's are supposed to be really loud, but on the plus site they can overclock without blowing up.
If I had the choice between two 590's and two 6990's, I think I would go with the AMD's, even though I am an Nvidia fanboy. But since you would have to sell the GTX 590's to get the 6990's, I think I would just stick with the GTX's to avoid the extra hassle. Unless you could sell them within the first week and get almost enough money to be the AMD's.

wauw that was a lot of numbers right there.
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WOW, lots of good advise!! Lots of good examples...and proof.gif! biggrin.gif

I can't view youtube at the office mad.gif so I will review those vids tonight definitely. smile.gif

What else do you got community?? biggrin.gif
   
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Originally Posted by RagingCain;13892912 
2x 6990 would be the smarter choice for 3x 1,000$ monitors (2560x1600) with the extra VRAM, but you are still selling yourself short on your resolution, as you know from Vegas' VRAM monitoring, he can easily go above 2GB of his 3GB cards. Especially in Metro2033.

Who cares about ''Vega'' results. Random guy in a basement that was telling us it was ''impossible, would crash crash crash'' to run 3X30'' with AMD, because of a ''Crossfire bandwidth limitation''. LOL. My system is running fine, thank you. And there is another 6990 Quad-Fire owner running 5X1 Eyefinity without any ''bandwidth'' problems also.

And ''Vega'' was measuring fps while staying in place, or using in-game benchmarks. rolleyes.gif

Alot of credibility. rolleyes.gif

Metro is playing fine on my system btw. There is like 3 games that need over 2Gb of RAM for 3X30'' LCD on the market right now. So who cares? I have over 75 other games in my Steam account that are playing fine without any problems. 3 games are needing over 2Gb at those res. 3 games... wink.gif

After ''Vega''. Let's talk about those stupid Tributar videos he made when the 6990 came out 4 months ago. Look here, and I hope some people will finally stop posting those stupid videos after reading that:

http://www.overclock.net/13407371-post1595.html

And where are the 590 SLI owners to ''challenge'' Khalam 2X 6990 results here:

http://www.overclock.net/benchmarking-software-discussion/1040721-fastest-2x6990-world.html

Where are they??? RagingCain. Why not post some comparison benchmarks, since the 2X 590 is up there with 2X 6990?
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Originally Posted by Levesque;13896364 
Who cares about ''Vega'' results. Random guy in a basement that was telling us it was ''impossible, would crash crash crash'' to run 3X30'' with AMD, because of a ''Crossfire bandwidth limitation''. LOL. My system is running fine, thank you. And there is another 6990 Quad-Fire owner running 5X1 Eyefinity without any ''bandwidth'' problems also.

And ''Vega'' was measuring fps while staying in place, or using in-game benchmarks. rolleyes.gif

Alot of credibility. rolleyes.gif

Metro is playing fine on my system btw. There is like 3 games that need over 2Gb of RAM for 3X30'' LCD on the market right now. So who cares? I have over 75 other games in my Steam account that are playing fine without any problems. 3 games are needing over 2Gb at those res. 3 games... wink.gif

After ''Vega''. Let's talk about those stupid Tributar videos he made when the 6990 came out 4 months ago. Look here, and I hope some people will finally stop posting those stupid videos after reading that:

http://www.overclock.net/13407371-post1595.html

And where are the 590 SLI owners to ''challenge'' Khalam 2X 6990 results here:

http://www.overclock.net/benchmarking-software-discussion/1040721-fastest-2x6990-world.html

Where are they??? RagingCain. Why not post some comparison benchmarks, since the 2X 590 is up there with 2X 6990?

Vega's claim was that 4x 6970s are bandwidth capped by their crossfire bridge, which he fully owned, and tested. Something you can't disprove because you are only running 3 cards. So I am not sure how you qualify just because you are using 4 GPUs. That is neither here nor there, as all I said was, his GPU usage was above 2GB. On several games (even if he was standing still) thats very bad news as its probably much higher on the VRAM usage running around. Still its my comments that even for your system, you need better cards to fully run 7680x1600 and since there is nothing out right now, you are probably better of with 4x 6970s or 4x 3GB 580s.

As far as Khalam's score:
When I commented before Khalam's score was not Checksum verified last time I saw it, but now it is. As far as I am concerned its a fake result.

2000 higher score than other 6990s similarly clocked? Take a deep breath, even you should be questioning it.

Nobody else can get that result at his clocks. He consistently behind other 2x 6990 users except for in Unigine and guess what, if you know how, you can disable tessellation and get that exact score yourself. I have seen it before, look at the official OCN Heaven benchmark thread, you were getting beat by a guy who has a 6990 with 6950 in crossfire by nearly 30%.

There is only two user in the world that are not on LN2 that are beating my GTX 590 scores and that is another GTX 590 user, and one 6990 user. Nobody else is close for using just two cards.

Van Dyk and NeoForce.

NeoForce is beating me by 100 points and Van Dyk has me beat by 50 points.

Khalam's score is so high, it has to be fake.
Edited by RagingCain - 6/16/11 at 12:31pm
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Hey guys. This is my thread....if you want to argue, that is what PM is for...please use it. For the purposes of this thread please address your posts to me rather than rivals. I do not want this thread being closed due to issues that were started way before I knew I would be getting 590's.

Thanks for respecting the purpose of this thread, I'm sure you understand my position. smile.gif
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I approved this double post, this ONE TIME, because I didn't feel like cleaning the previous thread.

Please keep the posts clean, and give this guy real information instead of flaming on X card because of Y reason.

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If it were me, i'd keep the 590s, Only because i am an nvidia fanboy *cough*No real reason.



I think 1.5gb is enough for most surround resolutions if your willing to drop a little AA and most can't tell the diff between 4xaa and 8x AA anyway, so it would save the hassle, atleast at 5760x1080.

I rarely go above 1.4GB of Vram used on my 460s, and yes they are the 2gb Editions at 5760x1080(Bezel corrected 6040x1080) on most games, the only one that does do it is RIFT, and well the second you turn AA on there, it shoots up to something like 3gb used, because its super sampling, and JC2 which uses 1.8GB of vram per card, so for the most part, games should be fine.
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Cards will be delivered on the 20th. They still don't know when they will be getting the CVF motherboards in stock so I won't be able to do much until that day.

On a side note.... I have $679.00 from Christmas and my B-Day still to play with and I have soooooo many ideas running through my head right now it is not funny.....seriously!!

With the loss of my 5970's I need to sell off my 5970 waterblocks. With the upcoming loss of my mobo, I need to sell off my CIVF waterblock. I still have 4 x 2GB sticks of CL7 1600Mhz Mushkin RAM that I need to sell.....I have a 22" monitor that I need to sell and the case (now modified) that is in my sig (got a new one for Father's Day, linky smile.gif). I want to sell off a bunch of my water cooling stuff and get different stuff......ugg....driving me nuts!!!! I just don't know where to start!!!
   
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Don't get 2 590s. If anything get 1 590, or 2 580's. If you REALLY want to get 2 590s, then no one's really stopping you. Your wallet my friend.
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