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http://www.overclock.net/graphics-cards-general/999466-faq-graphics-terminology.html

edit: oops i remembered this also explaining gpu terms, not just in game stuff. my bad.
Edited by Greensystemsgo - 6/16/11 at 8:02am
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Originally Posted by Kand View Post
Your processor would bottleneck those cards.
if i hear bottleneck one more time....

Although your correct the term bottleneck drives me nuts...


OT, i think you should go for something SLI tbh.
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post #13 of 28
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Originally Posted by snelan View Post
Yep. As said, NVidia used Cuda cores to drive the FPS, AMD uses shaders. A cuda core is more powerful than a shader, hence, a GTX 480 has 480 Cuda cores while the 5870 has 1,600 shaders. However, the GTX 480 is actually faster than the 5870.
In games, yes. Pure computing power? Nope
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well thats desupatable, considering these are pretty much spending all thier life in games anyway...

Also a 480 is a folding menace.
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Originally Posted by GlockZoR IV View Post
if i hear bottleneck one more time....

Although your correct the term bottleneck drives me nuts...


OT, i think you should go for something SLI tbh.
post #16 of 28
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Originally Posted by GlockZoR IV View Post
well thats desupatable, considering these are pretty much spending all thier life in games anyway...

Also a 480 is a folding menace.
The 5870 has considerably more theoretical compute power than a GTX 480, and there are real world OpenCL apps that heavily favor ATI cards because of this.

And not all of these cards are used for gaming. The majority probably, but lots of people use them for other things.
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Originally Posted by Strat79 View Post
For AMD, the Shader's, or "Stream Processors", are the main FPS pushers so to speak. Their clock speed is tied to the Core clock speed, so whatever the core speed is, the shader speed is. That is why you don't see it on AMD cards. Cuda Cores are the same thing as Shaders, Cuda cores are the FPS pushers for Nvidia cards. They are architecturally different, that is the reason there is a big difference in the number of Shaders for each company. They work differently and cannot be compared by clock speeds or numbers between the two companies. On Nvidia cards(for the most part anyway), the shader speed is not tied to the core clock, so you can change them independently.

Basically they both have the same stuff in them, just named differently for marketing reasons. Both have shaders as the main powerhouse. AMD calls theirs "Stream Processors" and Nvidia calls theirs "Cuda Cores".
Basically, this^.
Based on that, your card selection should be based primarily on benchmarks (Synthetic/real world) between your preferred cards and not just based on what certain details are because both companies use very different architectures.

Nvidia stresses CUDA cores because they(i.e. shaders) are used in encoding but quite a few and do accelerate the process a lot. They do that to get the attention of people who seek the graphics card for that purpose.
AMD at times focuses on "Stream Processors" when listing but again, they are both shaders. (I don't know how present day video encoding/transcoding performance fares with amd gpus so I'll make no comment on that).
Apps (example, flash/MPC) which allow hardware acceleration work excellently with both manufacturers anyway.
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Originally Posted by noahhova View Post
Please don't refer to that resolution as HD, its so misleading even if TECHNICALLY true. That res is horrible!!
Yeah but beliave it or not it is HD!And thats a gold standard.
And yeah i loooove cm punk too.That guy is badass.Im so happy that he is heel now!
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Yeah but beliave it or not it is HD!And thats a gold standard.
And yeah i loooove cm punk too.That guy is badass.Im so happy that he is heel now!
Punk does rule!! Ya anything above 720p is considered HD but really I think most people associate that acronym with good crisp image.

Anything below 1280x720 looks like trash IMO.

Edit: Of course assuming its at least a 15" or 17" screen!
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Originally Posted by Blameless View Post
The 5870 has considerably more theoretical compute power than a GTX 480, and there are real world OpenCL apps that heavily favor ATI cards because of this.

And not all of these cards are used for gaming. The majority probably, but lots of people use them for other things.
Yep yep
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