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Hey guys,

I'm 15 with no job living off $30 every 6 weeks for report cards + the occasional holiday and birthday money gifts I've got a little bit of extra cash right now and need some advice. As you can tell in the sig below, my current rig is pretty bad. Strangely enough though I can run the latest Medal of Honor on multiplayer perfectly fine on medium settings o.O But I can't run this one game very well, it seems. It's called APB Reloaded, I'm having a lot of fun with it, and please criticize my computer not game choices but I think I'm having bad frame rates with it, but think it may just be connection problems and I'm not really sure. Either way this rig is bad. But with such small income, I wanna make sure I have enough cash set aside for this year's games (Top priorities from #1 to #3: BF3(PC), Skyrim(PC), Assassin's Creed Revelations(PS3)). So here's what I can do: After selling a couple of my possessions, I'll have right about $196. If I pay full price for all three games by pre ordering, I'll have about $2 left over. My birthday will be here in September and I'm just throwing out an underestimate of $75 in birthday money, brings me to $77, then before any of the games have come out in the school year, I'll have gotten my first report card, if I get all A's, usually I do, that's another $30, so that then leaves me only $107 for temporary upgrades to this computer for running (at lowest settings of course is all I expect out of upgrading this) BF3 and Skyrim. Not a whole lot I can do with that since to upgrade my GPU I'll need a better PSU almost for sure, and to avoid bottle necking that GPU I'll need a new CPU. That's just one option/path I can take though. I'm willing to drop either Skyrim or Revelations from the purchase list to save some more money for upgrading if I need too. Yes just to clarify I do know that this will take some time to play out and that prices on certain items may drop so upgrading may be a little cheaper and etc. etc. So, where I need help is, stick with that course of action, or come up with a different plan that will allow me to upgrade my PC at least for the time being to get+run BF3 and Skyrim or Assassin's Creed, Or all three (excluding "run" from Assassin's Creed as I'll get that for the PS3)?

Thanks a whole lot for the help in advance guys, I really appreciate you reading this and apologize for it being so long.

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I would play cheap games like TF2 and build a rig at the same time. Do some chores or mow a couple lawns. You'll have a gaming worthy PC before you know it!
    
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I hate to buy 3 games a once, there is always 2 still wrapped after a year.
Just buy BF3 and upgrade your cpu/mb and GPU.
Get a cheap e5400+ddr2 775 MB and a GTX 460.
You'd need a new power supply too.
That's roughly $300-$350
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Before you play BF3 you are going to need to step into a quad core. A decent new computer is going to run you anywhere from $500-$900. My sig rig was not cheap at $800. Like you I am a teenager (17), I have no job, but I saved up a lot. Even my computer might choke at BF3 because of my graphics card but since it isn't out I have no idea. This has just about everything you might need without a graphics card http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboB...t=Combo.661399. I'm sorry that it's a bit much :/.
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personally, I would hold off on buying those games. As you said the longer you wait to buy them the cheaper they will be. I would take any money you have now and try to figure out the most affordable upgrade path. I would be looking at used hardware here in the marketplace, and/or open box deals on newegg/other retailers.

Also once you have upgraded your current machine you can also sell your old hardware on the ocn marketplace (once you get 35 rep that is). It may not sell for alot of money, but every little bit helps.

I would prioritize my hardware upgrades and then after that save money for games. There are plenty of other games that are cheap that can bring hours upon hours of fun.

First I would upgrade your power supply. Reason for this is because you know you are going to need a more powerful psu for any vga or cpu upgrade you may get in the future. Another reason for making this the first upgrade is you can test the psu once you receive it to make sure it is working, and if need be return it or get it replaced within the 30 day return period.

After the psu upgrade, I would look at whichever hardware can be upgraded and tested working once it is received. Maybe your video card.

If you plan on upgrading your cpu, I wouldnt buy the cpu until you have enough money to also buy the motherboard at the same time. This way you can be sure they both work within that 30 day return period.

I hope this helps you somewhat with your upgrade plans. I always have to convince myself when it comes to buying games it is well worth the wait to save $20 or more as apposed to buying the game when it first comes out. If you have never played the game before it will be just as exciting 3-4 months from now then if you buy it when it first comes out.

Good luck.
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Originally Posted by 0CALEFACTION0 View Post
Before you play BF3 you are going to need to step into a quad core. A decent new computer is going to run you anywhere from $500-$900. My sig rig was not cheap at $800. Like you I am a teenager (17), I have no job, but I saved up a lot. Even my computer my choke at BF3 because of my graphics card but since it isn't out I have no idea. This has just about everything you might need without a graphics card http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboB...t=Combo.661399. I'm sorry that it's a bit much :/.
You should have done like me and get a carton box and get 4gb instead of 8gb

You'd have saved enough to get a 560-6950
Once overclocked they will blast BF3
EDIT : Btw I like my carton box much more than my old HAF 932 with 9 fans in it
It's just so bad ass
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Agreed. Pick up a paper route, or those random student jobs. First job I ever got was working at my friend's dad's restaurant. He would pay me about 15$ a day for 3-4 hours of work. Lets face it though, I really wouldnt be working, I would do some odd jobs around. Chop some stuff, take out the garbage etc...

Best thing to do might be to tough it out for a bit, save up, and upgrade to something long term. Doesnt have to be current generation awesome, but it can be a high end machine on the previous generation (ex: the early quad cores, a high end GTX card from a year ago etc..). And you can usually get great deals gettin them used, but considering your age, for legal reasons, Id say get some parental guidance buying those online(ebay, paypal etc..)

Nothing Is bettern than a couple of weeks hard work, than opening those new boxes, fresh with that styro and new factory metal/plastic smell and puttin together a new rig to spice up that desktop of yers.
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You should have done like me and get a carton box and get 4gb instead of 8gb

You'd have saved enough to get a 560-6950
Once overclocked they will blast BF3
I felt like the 8gbs was necessary for my Photoshopping . What a carton box is escapes me...
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I've been in a similar situation before and I can feel your pain. What I would do is buy an am3, mobo ram and if you can scape together the cash a 955. You could pick those up for around 200. Although I have no idea whether your psu can handle that. But anyways after you have the mobo ram and cpu (maybe power supply) just save up slowly for a good budget graphics card.

Edit: Oh and the reason you lag on APB reloaded is probably because you only have 2gb of ram.
Edited by Larky_the_mauler - 6/16/11 at 12:53pm
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At least your screen is good~ not even being sarcastic --- That's a good investment right there!

With what you have, upgrading is going to be hard, since each part you swap requires another swap too --- at that point its like you'll have a whole second system.. (gotta swap PSU for Graphics - gotta swap Motherboard for processor --- gotta swap RAM if you get a newer motherboard --- etc etc etc)
I'd say go on newegg or tiger direct and get an AMD system barebone for around 230 dollars. I found this one right on the front page: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...9300&CatId=332
That kit has everything you need to get started... Phenom II x3 (maybe unlockable to x4, maybe not --- doesn't really matter either way)
Then, you can pick up a 9800GT for 45 dollars. Or - Keep your eyes peeled on the used card market (ebay, the forums here, craigslist). After you save more, you can double your RAM for an extra 35-40 dollars, upgrade the card if you want at a later date... In the end this whole sha-bang is going to set you out about 260 dollars to start, 300 total after the extra RAM, if you need it.

It really depends on what kind of games you want to play and if you can tolerate "medium" settings, but I was using an 8800GT (Overclocked Edition) playing everything I wanted at medium / high with shadows OFF right up till xmas this year with that card. An 8800GT or 9800GT will give you around PS3 / XBOX360 level of graphics.

At the end of the day - you should be really satisfied with a mid-tier PC. A large amount of the users here are heavy enthusiasts, and have a deep desire to have the best of the best. For a young user with limited funds, you aren't going to have to sacrifice much to get a good PC and PC Gaming experience. You won't get Quad SLI, but you aren't going to be missing it much either~

Good luck, and let us know what you decide~ If money is so tight that 250 dollars is out of the question --- consider either selling some stuff or as others have suggested, making an effort to increase your incoming funds.
Best Wishes and sorry for the long post --- Hopefully something in there will be of use to you~
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