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post #11 of 24
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Originally Posted by JeremyFr View Post
Well considering they sold their PC manufacturing division to Lenovo and no longer make consumer level PC's, what product's are you basing your opionion on?? Their world class supercomputers? Their extremely high quality enterprise servers? I'm just wondering because Lenovo is NOT IBM and never was.
At this point their "consumers" are other businesses. The Xbox 360, Wii and PS3 all run IBM processors.
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better put IBM supported the nazis
Not really. They sold them, pre-war, equipment to manage census data. The Nazi's used this equipment to help in their persecution of the Jewish people. Watson himself did come out with a statement of support for Germany under Adolf Hitler but that was before the war, furthermore when war did break out he returned the medal awarded him by the German state.

Would Watson still have allowed the sell of his machines if he had known what some of them would end up being used for? I'd like to think no, but really none of us knows. That does not stop me from celebrating all the great products and advancements IBM has been responsible for in their long and storied history. Is IBM the same business today that it was earlier? Of course not. It still accomplished great things.
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post #13 of 24
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To be honest there are 2 companies that every single person on this board shoul be thankful for every day of their lives. IBM and Bell Labs. IF you look at all these 2 have done for technology and computers its amazing. Apple, Microsoft, Google, none of these company's even combined have come close to matching the accomplishements of IBM and Bell Lab's.
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Not really. They sold them, pre-war, equipment to manage census data. The Nazi's used this equipment to help in their persecution of the Jewish people. Watson himself did come out with a statement of support for Germany under Adolf Hitler but that was before the war, furthermore when war did break out he returned the medal awarded him by the German state.

Would Watson still have allowed the sell of his machines if he had known what some of them would end up being used for? I'd like to think no, but really none of us knows. That does not stop me from celebrating all the great products and advancements IBM has been responsible for in their long and storied history. Is IBM the same business today that it was earlier? Of course not. It still accomplished great things.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust
they knew what was going on, driven by greed...
Edited by otakunorth - 6/17/11 at 9:31am
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post #15 of 24
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust
they knew what was going on, driven by greed...
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Black outlines the way in which IBM's technology helped facilitate Nazi genocide against the Jewish people through generation and tabulation of punch cards based upon national census data
The link you give just proves his point

EDIT: NVM I'll eat my words...
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post #16 of 24
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International Business Machines, we owe so much to them.


The Nazi's also breathed air and drank water. Just sayin'.
does anyone realize that watson muscled his way into power? and IBM still has a serious money laundering division which magically makes them not make any money in some countries and happen to make a ton of money in countries with low taxes *inside sauce* and they have an entire division for buying up companies and then dividing them up and breaking them down... thought that was pretty interesting
Edited by twich12 - 6/17/11 at 2:43pm
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there is no such thing as a nice guy company thats been around for as long as IBM.
Tax evasion will remain a common business practise until the world is united under one tax system.

yay IBM harsh abbrevations about leaving for the glasshouse living stone throwing whiners.
 
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What's better yet is the organization I work for (a nonprofit) had 25 IBM volunteers come on Wednesday, the day before their 100th anniversary, to work. They said it's an international thing, and they were hoping to get IBM volunteers to volunteer a total of a million hours that day.

I like IBM much more after being told that.
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What's better yet is the organization I work for (a nonprofit) had 25 IBM volunteers come on Wednesday, the day before their 100th anniversary, to work. They said it's an international thing, and they were hoping to get IBM volunteers to volunteer a total of a million hours that day.

I like IBM much more after being told that.
I'm going to remain neutral in this discussion, but that's fairly anecdotal evidence, wouldn't you say?
    
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post #20 of 24
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Without IBM,you wouldn't have the PC as we know it today.
Guess you weren't around when IBM scoffed at the idea of personal computing. Why would anyone want a computer in their home? Computers are for businesses and business stuff only! Apple came around and changed that one.

The whole Nazi supporting, outsourcing to 3rd world countries, trying to squash personal computing is their bad side.
They have plenty of wonderful accomplishments such as arranging atoms into the sequence of "IBM" and "IBM compatible" computers are their good side. IBM's Watson will be used in hospitals to help doctors give you better care in the future.
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 6/18/11 at 5:13am
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