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Why is it everywhere I turn people insist that the performance of an ES chip doesn't reflect the final retail product?

Has nobody had an ES chip? They're virtually identical to the final product... Sometimes, instruction sets can be missing, or certain additional features like virtualization or energy saving technologies are disabled, but to those that insist that the final product will be so much better, you're in store for disappointment.
Later ES sure, but some of the BD benchmarks we've seen have been from samples that are clearly from much earlier in the development stage.
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Later ES sure, but some of the BD benchmarks we've seen have been from samples that are clearly from much earlier in the development stage.
While this is true, the ES referenced in this thread is supposedly a B1 stepping. Meanwhile, the retail product is expected to be a B2 stepping.

It's unlikely performance will increase by a shocking amount between the two.
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While this is true, the ES referenced in this thread is supposedly a B1 stepping. Meanwhile, the retail product is expected to be a B2 stepping.

It's unlikely performance will increase by a shocking amount between the two.
Of course, I agree in the case of this specific example. 3GHz is almost exactly what I would expect stock clocks to be. The benchmarks from the B0 stepping that we've been seeing are clearly well below expected performance, however. I think many people are still using that as a defense to say we should never conclude anything the engineering samples.
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how people can know the final performance if they dont work at amd ....
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how people can know the final performance if they dont work at amd ....
And not a single person in this thread said they knew exactly what the final performance would be
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SHHHH!..."Steamroller" is AMD's internal codename for BD-Enhanced...
There's no such thing as BD-Enhanced??
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Same reason why people still buy Pentium4s. It makes you cool.
Want one? My university is trying to get rid of 2000. I'll give you a good deal, $500 plus free shipping.
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sigh.

I made a news post about this about 2 days ago, but it got removed because the mod's deemed it an advertisement.

But I also posted it here:

http://www.overclock.net/13864296-post1371.html
That's what happens when you forget the bribes.

Pssst! Lots, and lots, of Redbull!
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There's no such thing as BD-Enhanced??
It's the second generation Bulldozer architecture.
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It's the second generation Bulldozer architecture.
I had assumed so,but isn't "Steamroller" the codename for BD-Enhanced?
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