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Overclocking while locked seems quite fine as x2 consumes much less power. For any x4, you will want to look to at least a 4+1 phase with quality design & stable operation, and proper cooling.
In your case dlee though I would definitely look out and watch where you're going, that's actually a 3+1 phase motherboard you're using; 3+1 phases regardless of brand, even cooling, often see problems running any sort of power-hungry processor.

most modern AMD boards can support 125w no problem(which is what the X4's TDP is), heck even the Phenom I was a 140w processor put in alot of low end OEM boards and there were no problems as long as it stayed at stock.

I believe you are 100 percent correct about making sure people know about MOSFET/VRAM, I just think its fine to run an unlocked processor as long as you aren't trying to push it to 4GHZ on a 3+1.
    
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since most people on this thread don't use Ubuntu, and probably don't know anything about it (no offense people ), I'll jump in here. You only need the Athlon. Ubuntu relies on graphics and RAM more than CPU. Ubuntu will manage and distribute everything usually on all cores. For Windows users, windows requires a ton of CPU, b/c god forbid they can't touch their CPU-management!!! lol. IMO, since u use Ubuntu, get the Athlon!
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Thanks for the reply's every one.

Now ive just been looking at a Asus M4N98TD EVO nForce 980a. Would this be a good board for unlocking and overclocking?
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Youll want a quad for bfbc2 etc else you got a bottleneck
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Thanks for the reply's every one.

Now ive just been looking at a Asus M4N98TD EVO nForce 980a. Would this be a good board for unlocking and overclocking?
No, dont get a nforce board for amd. Look for a 880/890 asrock board or get a 990fx board for around 140, they support bulldozer aswell and are good clockers
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Only a few select Phenom Is were in the 140W range. And when they were put in low-end mobos, the mobos VRM failed in similar ways actually. If you want to know, most OEM manufacturers tend to limit the CPU to 95W TDP due to both heat and power consumption. In the majority of cases you won't see prebuilts with CPUs over 95W TDP. That's why Phenom x3s were more common than Phenom x4s in OEM builds at that time period.

A great alternative to the nForce boards are the 900 series chipset boards. The 900 series chipset is brand new and includes the AM3+ socket for future FX-Series processor support. They also NATIVELY support the running of SLI. The 800 series boards do not natively support SLI, but this can be done via an unofficial hack which is software-based (fairly safe) and works in the majority of cases.
My recommendations:
Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3 - 990X chipset, 8x-8x SLI/CrossfireX, AM3+ socket, 8+2 VRM with heatsink, great features/price for tier - $150 + $8 shipping
ASRock 890GX Extreme4 - 890GX chipset, 8x-8x CrossfireX (SLI via hack), AM3 socket, 8+2 VRM with heatsink, one of the price/performance winners for such, but no AM3+ support - $127 + $7 shipping
ASRock 870 Extreme3 - 870 chipset, 8x-8x CrossfireX (SLI via hack), AM3+ socket (not pictured but that's what Newegg should hand over according to sources), 4+1 VRM with heatsink - $90 shipped (I can't be too sure on the 8x-8x CFX support; the hardware interconnect links are there, though AMD supposedly officially states that 870 chipset does not apparently support it)

If you plan on SLI-ing those 560s, then you definitely want to go with a motherboard supporting 8x-8x PCI-E; 8x PCI-e will not bottleneck anything. However, 4x PCI-E will bottleneck anything above a Radeon 5770. It should be noted that if you have no plans to SLI, then you should save your money!!! In which case I recommend:
ASUS M5A97 EVO - 970 chipset, 16x-4x PCi-E, Am3+ socket, 6+2 VRM with heatsink - $118 shipped
Edited by xd_1771 - 6/19/11 at 1:42am
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Would a asrock 880GXH/USB3 or a Asus M4A88T-V EVO 880G be worth buying? The asus is 8+1 phase and the asrock is 4+1.

I could pick one of those up right now on my current budget. i dont plan on SLI any time soon.
Edited by nathanmx - 6/19/11 at 6:12am
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i just need something for now that will work well with phenom 555 and but still be able to play games and within budget but would be nice for a small amount of overclocking and maybe unlock a core if im lucky.
Edited by nathanmx - 6/21/11 at 10:02am
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i was thinking maybe of getting a evga gtx460 1gb, get a Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3 and go SLI when i have some cash to get another card. Also could anyone recommend a aftermarket cpu cooler??
Edited by nathanmx - 6/24/11 at 5:43am
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