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SO, i can get gtx570 frozrII or MSIgtx480 lighting for the same price.... What then...
570 then. The MSI cooler will allow you to push it quite a bit, and it will dump a lot less heat into your case.
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Definitely the 570 GTX TF II or the TF III one
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The gtx 480 has the TFIII cooler.



I'd take the 480 if SLI is something you'd look to in the future.

Does the 570 TFII have more power phases than reference or is that just the TFIII and the power edition?
    
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570 TFII is a stock/reference 570 with a nicer cooler than reference (although it puts more heat into the case due to it not exhausting the hot air). This means that it has the VRM issues, although if you aren't overvolting the card, that won't matter.

The 480 Lightning is a beast, lots of upgraded components, top of the line TF cooler, and a hefty overclock out of box. At those clocks, it will definitely be faster (by a few % points) than the 570 TFII. And it has a beefier memory subsystem, with a wider bus and more vram capacity. Which CAN make a difference, even at 1080p, esp. if you like to play modded versions of games that use higher-res textures. However, it will dump more hot air into the case vs. the 570, no doubt, and will probably run a bit louder.

If it were me, at the same price, I'd get the 480 Lightning for sure. With all else being equal (which they largely are in this case), I'd prefer a unique card with upgraded components over something more mainstream/reference.
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MSI 570 GTX TF.The voltage control and its great cooling system allow you to oc your card up its neck.
Edited by sinakr6 - 6/17/11 at 7:37pm
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480s are beasts......i'm getting a third
    
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post #47 of 50
It still has an inherent power phase design flaw, it lacks the necessarily vrms to drive voltage past the point of where heat would be the limiting factor.

http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/9291...led-570-a.html

The GTX 480 was $530+ card of yesteryear, it is the cream of the crop for GF100 cards. I would take it over a reference designed 570 ten times out of ten. If it was a power edition, and the OP had no desire to go SLI, then I'd have a different opinion. However having 1.25GB cards myself in SLI it doesn't matter how fast you clock it, a vram limitation will stop you cold. Modded (and even some unmodded) games from this year, as well as past years with high res textures will be vram limited on a 570. The 480 gives you an additional 250mb of vram, the TFIII cooler, and a stout vram design made for LN2 runs.

The TF III cooler will be the limiter of the 480 lighting, water cooling, phase change, LN2 will all improve its performance. While retaining its high vram and faster ram bus, it provides the greatest potential between the two cards in question by a fair margine. It does have its downsides, however... Like anything worth having, it has more upsides than down.

    
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480- hot, loud, more VRAM.

570- cooler, quieter, explodes.
 
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this morning (in italy now its morning hehe) i went to pc shop near home and can pick for 260€ the evga version. but there are 2 different both at same price

http://www.evga.com/products/moreInf...s%20Family&sw=

http://www.evga.com/products/moreInf...s%20Family&sw=
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the reference card have weak vrms and evga cards are always reference despite their awesome warranty and customer support.
If you find a non-reference card you won't regret it.
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