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post #11 of 36
Because it's VRMs are prone to failure. Did you miss where I mentioned that it was a weak card and then listed cards with a strong VRM design?
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post #12 of 36
VRM issues on ref card
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post #13 of 36
Def go w/ the Twin Frozr II/III (preferably the III cuz it has more power phases and does not use the ref pcb, giving it better overclockability) EVGA's main push is that it has a lifetime warranty....which is good dont get me wrong, but most ppl are goin to buy new cards in 1-2 years if not sooner or later.
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post #14 of 36
I'd get the TF III...and then I'd overclock the snot out of it
    
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post #15 of 36
Didn't Twin Frozer II use the same VRMS but better cooler? I guess the TF III is the one with the improved VRMS.
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post #16 of 36
Yes the TFII is a reference PCB with a better cooler, that's why that card was not recommended and the TFIII with the strong VRM design was. BTW for the OP, out of the cards I recommended I would go with the Asus DCII, it's on a pretty good sale right now and is an excellent card if you can fit it's triple slot requirements.
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post #17 of 36
Ok juano thanks for the info & explanation. +1 rep
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post #18 of 36
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the answers guys. I have a grad party tomorrow and hopefully I'll be able to use some of the money to buy myself a GTX570. I don't have to worry about bottleneck anymore either since I'm (pretty) sure that a quad at 4.1ghz is plenty
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post #19 of 36
there are other cards that adopt the non refence design that you could consider, like the direct CU II but it's a 3 slot monster. The Gainward 570 Phantom, Gainward 570 GS Goes Like Hell, Palit 570 Sonic Platinum all share the non reference design with improved phase power to tackle the VRM issue.
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Does the Twin Frozr II have a reference PCB?
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