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Since I've tried linux flavors... Last I tried was Linux Mint 6 and Fedora 10, a few years ago...

I've been itching to try Linux again just because its something different... few questions:

is WINE still the best way to run games, being cedega (sp?) also an alternative (not really a good one though)...? My primary purpose for my desktop is games, so this is important

Do we have a Linux-native steam client yet? I know steam hasn't said anything, but has someone got it working? I'm only asking because it works on MAC, which should be similar?

Which manufacturer of GPUs (ATI/Nvidia) has the better driver support/working drivers under Linux?
 
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Nvidia for gfx, AMD works but.... I'll just say that you might encounter less problems and more stability with Nvidia.

Cedega is dead, transgaming is gone. =( http://gametreelinux.com/ This is the replacement and is now free, though Wine has come a long ways now. It's caught up and isn't really behind much.

Steam isn't native, no current plans to do so. Steam itself works flawless under Wine, with the exception of the in game chat thingy that still has to be disabled. It's only because it injects into memory and you can't do that with Wine, you can't find windows memory addresses without actually using windows for memory. LOL

If you want all the new and up to date games you'll either have to wait for Wine support (generally only specific games) or your going to be disappointed. It's a great desktop, not a great gaming OS. You can play plenty of games, just not the OMG games.
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Cedega is dead, transgaming is gone. =( http://gametreelinux.com/ This is the replacement and is now free, though Wine has come a long ways now. It's caught up and isn't really behind much.
have you tried that? pretty new... wondering how good it is might be worth my time if its good and free considering wine and me dont get along
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have you tried that? pretty new... wondering how good it is might be worth my time if its good and free considering wine and me dont get along
From everything I've read on the wine forums and elsewhere there is no reason not to use wine itself. It just matters what version you use, it's common for code regressions. I figure wine has much more people to work on it, considering it's open. This has probably pushed development farther than something that is closed and with a smaller dev team, considering you have to re-code an api to run applications without actually stealing windows code.
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For the most part wine does the job. You'll probably always have some minor quirks and some games just flat out will not work. Check http://appdb.winehq.org for the games you might want to run before wasting any time. I like keeping my windows HD unplugged... until a new game comes out that doesn't work, it will stay that way.

Performance is right on par with windows, max settings. Nvidia card with nvidia proprietary drivers is surprisingly well supported. My old HD3870 was windows ME stable under linux (and yes I had the config right, spent a lot of time trying to fix). And the windows support wasn't perfect either, nvidia's software dept should mentor ATI's.

Also do some research for winetricks, you'll need to use it to install supporting packages (direct3d, msvc++, etc) and also use regedit. If you've got $40 to spend, crossover games is nice wrapper on top of all of this that simplifies the whole thing. I paid for it a long time ago and the license key still works. It's useful but not required if you have time to spend working through wine. Actually, I do want to try ditching crossover and installing the native wine package, who knows it might work even better. For me setting the registry keys was what really made the difference. Without very unstable, with damn near perfect.


And the steam ingame chat works fine. Everything steam works, perhaps you are out of date.
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Not necessarily helpful but since we're on the topic, I have a urge to spout out my opinion anyway:

I don't think you should use Linux as a gaming OS if most of your games are for Windows, especially since you already have it. That's not to say that you shouldn't try Linux, but if you'll end up running mostly non-native software using a compatibility layer it's a pretty pointless exercise. Windows really is, in all honesty, a fine gaming OS - I personally find it rather excellent for gaming, and that's even when not considering the fact that most games run on it natively. It's only when I try to do serious work that Windows tends to fall on its face and get on my nerves.

IMO, if you're curious about Linux, you really should be aiming to use native software - however, for games this is almost impossible. If you want to try Linux, that's really cool, and if you want to tweak stuff and get your games working, that's absolutely fine too - but if you're more serious about it, try not to make games a too big part of your Linux experience.
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