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If you are talking about ATI you do realize they killed nvidia for nearly 1 full year where nvidia had nothing to compete?

If you mean nvidia, yes, I agree. Lets hope they do better.
Got the same feeling over here...
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post #22 of 41
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If you are talking about ATI you do realize they killed nvidia for nearly 1 full year where nvidia had nothing to compete?

If you mean nvidia, yes, I agree. Lets hope they do better.
You forgot the one in between. TSMC.
post #23 of 41
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If you are talking about ATI you do realize they killed nvidia for nearly 1 full year where nvidia had nothing to compete?

If you mean nvidia, yes, I agree. Lets hope they do better.
"Them" as in TSMC.

Their poor 40nm yields early on caused problems for both AMD and Nvidia.
Were you around during the shortage of HD5000 cards?
http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...ems-could.html
http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...ausing-pc.html
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TSMC had unexpected yeild problems with their 40nm process = 5XXX shortage

Nvidia put a crapload of transistors on a 40nm die=Fermi low yields= expensive and hot.
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post #25 of 41
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"Them" as in TSMC.

Their poor 40nm yields early on caused problems for both AMD and Nvidia.
Were you around during the shortage of HD5000 cards?
http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...ems-could.html
http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...ausing-pc.html
Yes, but at least they had a card. The shortage was too many people wanted the fastest cards, ATI.
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post #26 of 41
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Yes, but at least they had a card. The shortage was too many people wanted the fastest cards, ATI.
I think you are missing the point here.

I said that I hope TSMC will execute their 28nm better than their 40nm because their 40nm yield problems affected both Nvidia and AMD.
Hopefully no problems will affect either one this time around.

This isn't a debate about who got whose cards out first.
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TSMC is not so good quality wise.Many Nvidia chips with issues were made there.Let s hope they enhance their production lines.
   
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TSMC is not so good quality wise.Many Nvidia chips with issues were made there.Let s hope they enhance their production lines.
Their quality is as good as any other foundry.

nVidia asked too much of them, hence the hot, late, and pricey part of fermi
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Their quality is as good as any other foundry.

nVidia asked too much of them, hence the hot, late, and pricey part of fermi
Maybe they should of said : "no can t do , as the products will be bad".
And it s not only Fermi ,there was the 8600 incidents and more in the past with Nvidia and maybe even with VIA.
   
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post #30 of 41
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TSMC had unexpected yeild problems with their 40nm process = 5XXX shortage

Nvidia put a crapload of transistors on a 40nm die=Fermi low yields= expensive and hot.
low yields could mean lots of things ... either a complicated chip to fab ... or buggy fab process ... or even both combined or some other problem in the circuitry itself that the engineer didnt see .... lots of things are possible ....
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