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I used to have all same componets but on a XFX 780i mobo. It would not pass POST unless I ran the fsb and ram in a ratio when I OC. However. I now have a Asus striker ii formula. This comp now will not POST if the ram is OC'd at all. I have to run them completely unlinked, which I assume I experience serious bottlenecking with a 4ghz cpu speed.

Could this be a voltage issue within the BIOS? Is there something I'm not seeing? All memory settings are set to auto.

Here is my exact memory kit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820159021
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Ahh yes. That's just a generic 2x2GB kit of DDR2-800. Best to keep them around stock speeds. You can try overclocking them a little, you might get lucky and get DDR2-900 up to 1000 out of them with some more voltage. But honestly they probably won't go too high.

No, DDR2-800 isn't going to hurt your CPU speed. CPU speed is king, always has been. Get your CPU as high as you can first. THEN worry about RAM.
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And why is it that I can't overclock much? It OC'd fine with the other board. I'm assuming RAM has no temp or voltage protection that it will just die if I push it too hard? Contrary to not being able to cook or kill Core 2's easily as they just shut the system down?

This mobo supports 1066mhz as well. Found this... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820134718

Opinions on overclockability? Or would crucial be a much better brand to go with? Their matching kit is only 2$s more.
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Originally Posted by emeraldage View Post
And why is it that I can't overclock much? It OC'd fine with the other board. I'm assuming RAM has no temp or voltage protection that it will just die if I push it too hard? Contrary to not being able to cook or kill Core 2's easily as they just shut the system down?

This mobo supports 1066mhz as well. Found this... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820134718

Opinions on overclockability? Or would crucial be a much better brand to go with? Their matching kit is only 2$s more.
You're looking at DDR3, not DDR2. Your system takes DDR2.

If you want to step up into some better DDR, you should look at DDR2-1066, CAS5. They start out at about $75 for a 4GB kit though. Honestly, its not really worth it for an aging system like that. You won't feel any difference from 800 to 1066 anyway.

For the record though, I just got rid of 8GB of that Hyper X 1066. My sticks (personally) were all stable at DDR2-1250, 5-6-5-18, and DDR2-1333, 6-6-6-18. As with anything, it is the luck of the draw though.
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Dying and outdated? Really? That's quite rude to say and an elitest thing to say. If you consider a system like mine too cavemen that is a bit of an issue...

I'll try setting the voltage to what it's supposed to be at 1.8 incase the BIOS is under doing it.
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Dying and outdated? Really? That's quite rude to say and an elitest thing to say. If you consider a system like mine too cavemen that is a bit of an issue...

I'll try setting the voltage to what it's supposed to be at 1.8 incase the BIOS is under doing it.
I didn't say dying and outdated. I said its an aging system.

$75 for 4GB of DDR2 is expensive. You can get 4GB of DDR3 for about $25-30 on sale, $40 for really good stuff.

When the parts start getting to the point where it'd be cheaper to buy newer stuff, its time to start calling it outdated. LGA 775 has been around since 2005. Obviously, the 45nm dual cores and quads are great (and even the original C2D / C2Q's too). There's no reason to upgrade from it right now from a gaming standpoint, that's for sure.

All I'm saying, is that $75 for 4GB of RAM is a little much, considering the age of your system. Not being rude or elitist, just a realist.

EDIT:
And you could try up to around 2.0v safely on that memory that you have right now. That might get you a little head room to get them clocked a little higher.
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Yeah the market is really friggin stupid how old memory where there is problem thousandsssss of sticks layin around in peoples houses that aren't being used are this expensive. Yeah I'm not going to buy any.

Oh just to make you angry Rockford>Pioneer. lol
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Yeah the market is really friggin stupid how old memory where there is problem thousandsssss of sticks layin around in peoples houses that aren't being used are this expensive. Yeah I'm not going to buy any.

Oh just to make you angry Rockford>Pioneer. lol
Banhammer! Just kidding obviously.

Nah seriously though, I understand completely. In August of last year, I was still rocking a Socket 939 rig with a dual core Opteron. I can't even express how mad I was that my 4x1GB of DDR400 was $200, but 2x2GB of DDR2 was $35.
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Well if you actually want to overclock it would probably be a good idea to get your RAM settings off of auto.

If you give that kit 2.1v - 2.2v you should be able to 1066mhz CAS 5 with no problem. Since it doesn't have heatspreaders it would be a good idea to have a fan pushing some air through there. But really you're not going to be able to go much past stock without touching voltage and/or adjusting timings...
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