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Unless you're OC hangs on a knife's edge at the brink of acceptable voltage limits you could run your CPUs/GPUs indefinitely (or for a long time at least) as long as temps stay in check. Be reasonable though, I degraded a W3520 by putting 1.45vcore, 1.425 qpi/vtt and 1.775 dram through it for extended periods of time.
    
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Klue22 is right on a couple things. Lots of extra voltage will definitely degrade a CPU a lot faster. Where I have to disagree (humbly disagree, mind you...) is the idea that a processor will last forever with good cooling. Processors get old and worn out just like your favorite pair of shoes --- and even though it may last a very long time, often a lot longer than the individual keeps the system - Ive had processors die without ever being overclocked. Also, its not just the CPU that wears out -- Motherboards get burned out after a lot of use, NB chips, SB chips, transisters --- Even other components, like your power supply, are slowly dying from the moment they are brought into this world (or into this system, as the case may be). A good sign of the power supply example is often on "system power" calculators on large websites - there is a "how old is this power supply" area and for every year they tend to remove 5-10% of the power generation potential from the power supply. There is a reason people are often told their 550 watt power supplies from their Pentium 4 CPUs are not good to bring along on new builds~

PS: I hope that was humble enough --- I completely agree with everything else you mentioned and think your posts in this thread have been both insightful and direct~ (*removes nose from your backside*)
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Klue22 is right on a couple things. Lots of extra voltage will definitely degrade a CPU a lot faster. Where I have to disagree (humbly disagree, mind you...) is the idea that a processor will last forever with good cooling. Processors get old and worn out just like your favorite pair of shoes --- and even though it may last a very long time, often a lot longer than the individual keeps the system - Ive had processors die without ever being overclocked. Also, its not just the CPU that wears out -- Motherboards get burned out after a lot of use, NB chips, SB chips, transisters --- Even other components, like your power supply, are slowly dying from the moment they are brought into this world (or into this system, as the case may be). A good sign of the power supply example is often on "system power" calculators on large websites - there is a "how old is this power supply" area and for every year they tend to remove 5-10% of the power generation potential from the power supply. There is a reason people are often told their 550 watt power supplies from their Pentium 4 CPUs are not good to bring along on new builds~

PS: I hope that was humble enough --- I completely agree with everything else you mentioned and think your posts in this thread have been both insightful and direct~ (*removes nose from your backside*)
Lol true, indefinitely probably wasn't the best choice of words. I guess I was trying to say that unless you really push the envelope 24/7 your parts aren't likely to give out before you want to get new ones anyway.
    
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Lol true, indefinitely probably wasn't the best choice of words. I guess I was trying to say that unless you really push the envelope 24/7 your parts aren't likely to give out before you want to get new ones anyway.
Now this is something I can get 100% behind. Ive never worn a system out on stock BEFORE it was time to upgrade.... But I do tend to keep my old builds around and I have had a Pentium 2 and a Pentium 3 both die on me, the Pentium 2 was two systems later, during my Pentium 4 era... and the Pentium 3 stopped working while I had an Core2Duo E8400. They definitely lasted longer than the --- what? 3 Year? warranty period... Interestingly, Ive moved on from the E8400 and have the build in my sig now -- I wonder how much longer till my Pentium 4 rig dies?

But as the saying goes: Nothing lasts forever, and all good things come to an end~
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The solution here is simple though.

Let's say your monthly bill is $100 / month. Everyone pays $20 evenly.

You start folding for a month and your bill is now $120.

The 4 other guys would still pay the $20, and you would pay $40.

If you explained the benefits of folding to them, and why you're doing it, they may be ok with it.

$120 / 5 would now be $24 per person, that's hardly a big increase.

Of course this is hypothetical, but you get the idea.
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The solution here is simple though.

Let's say your monthly bill is $100 / month. Everyone pays $20 evenly.

You start folding for a month and your bill is now $120.

The 4 other guys would still pay the $20, and you would pay $40.

If you explained the benefits of folding to them, and why you're doing it, they may be ok with it.

$120 / 5 would now be $24 per person, that's hardly a big increase.

Of course this is hypothetical, but you get the idea.
or you could just not tell them lol
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or you could just not tell them lol
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or you could just not tell them lol
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Note to self: Get less-tech-savvy roommates / get a place where utilities are included in the rent~ Then - you can run a ton of PCs with Folding @ no extra charge.
Be a real beast and get a bunch of those old hot slow Pentium 4 chips.... then you can crank the AC AND waste a ton of watts with a shotty watt - to - performance ratio.

Or - as others have said - run it all the time and tell NO ONE... Unless of course you live alone and pay the full bill.... Then check if your power company does a rolling rate -- where its cheaper at night than during peak --- if that's the case, set it to run during the cheap times!

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Yes! always factor in cooling!
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