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why does a 15 year old card sound so much better than my onboard?

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like the title says i found my old SB live 5.1 from 1999 and it sounds significantly better than my onboard.

this card has been through hell and back it has been dropped in a pool and left there for 2 days, thrown across a room and hit the floor really hard(cement floor) kicked, stepped on and still sounds so much better and clearer than my onboard its pathetic.

why? i see (do i need a sound card) threads all the time and 99% of the time people say the onboard is better than old cards but this is clearly not true.

is onboard really that low quality?
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post #2 of 38
Because your onboard is built into the motherboard, it doesn't have all the same parts as a sound card, and sound cards back then were actually built quite good for there time. they were a little ahead in that department.


and yes onboard is low quality, if you have the ears to hear it
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post #3 of 38
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Originally Posted by renji1337 View Post
Because your onboard is built into the motherboard, it doesn't have all the same parts as a sound card, and sound cards back then were actually built quite good for there time. they were a little ahead in that department.


and yes onboard is low quality, if you have the ears to hear it
but why even bother putting onboard sound on a $200+ mobo then if its such crap?
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post #4 of 38
Lucky card
I think that It's dedicated to play sound, so it should do it's job better than onboard sound proccesing unit.
Onboard is like better than nothing, but if you want quality buy a dedicated card.
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but why even bother putting onboard sound on a $200+ mobo then if its such crap?
What?
    
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post #6 of 38
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Originally Posted by philhalo66 View Post
but why even bother putting onboard sound on a $200+ mobo then if its such crap?
Some people don't care and are happy with onboard. It probably doesn't cost much more to throw a cheap chipset in there.

Because if you don't have a soundcard, lower quality sound is better than no sound at all.
 
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post #7 of 38
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Lucky card
I think that It's dedicated to play sound, so it should do it's job better than onboard sound proccesing unit.
Onboard is like better than nothing, but if you want quality buy a dedicated card.
i have like 9 of these live cards every one of them is well over 15 years old this one was bought in 1998 by my uncle. my audigy died for no reason after 10 years. goes to show ya they don't make things like they used to.


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Originally Posted by cgg123321 View Post
Some people don't care and are happy with onboard. It probably doesn't cost much more to throw a cheap chipset in there.

Because if you don't have a soundcard, lower quality sound is better than no sound at all.
not to me when my audigy died and i tried onboard it made me cringe it was full of static and i could literally hear a screaming sound whenever my GPU had even 4% load on it.
Edited by philhalo66 - 6/18/11 at 1:43am
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post #8 of 38
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but why even bother putting onboard sound on a $200+ mobo then if its such crap?
Why? Because you're not paying for the audio. It's for everything else. The audio is just a plus.
 
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post #9 of 38
some high end boards come with a PCIe-1X sound card

also I prefer to use HDMI audio over using a big speaker/bass system and all the wires,etc.

guess I have never been picky on sound but that is interesting that it runs so good for being so old.
    
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post #10 of 38
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not to me when my audigy died and i tried onboard it made me cringe it was full of static and i could literally hear a screaming sound whenever my GPU had even 4% load on it.
I also like quality music, but I'm satisfied with onboard because my speakers aren't the tiptop ones, so there won't be difference if used dedicaded sound card or onboard.
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