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I recently just purchased a GTX 570 and overclocked by quite a bit, though now that I've overclocked it, I've noticed a few problems. Games like BC2/Metro/Warhead/Crysis 2 I've noticed huge gains in performance. But in games like Crysis 1/GTA4/JC2/DoW2 I've noticed very little performance gains or have very crappy minimum's. Looked up my GPU usage in msi afterburner and behold, in Crysis 1 it can get as bad as 54%. Anyway, I have an option to sell my AMD rig and upgrade to a sandy bridge setup at the cost of $110 or upgrading to an BE Phenom ii X4 rig at no cost. Would upgrading to sandy bridge fix my bottlenecking issues or would I be better off with a Phenom ii X4 @ 4ghz?
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You would see better FPS with a 2500K at 4GHz than with a Phenom II X4 at the same speed.
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Originally Posted by Tyrant1337 View Post
I recently just purchased a GTX 570 and overclocked by quite a bit, though now that I've overclocked it, I've noticed a few problems. Games like BC2/Metro/Warhead/Crysis 2 I've noticed huge gains in performance. But in games like Crysis 1/GTA4/JC2/DoW2 I've noticed very little performance gains or have very crappy minimum's. Looked up my GPU usage in msi afterburner and behold, in Crysis 1 it can get as bad as 54%. Anyway, I have an option to sell my AMD rig and upgrade to a sandy bridge setup at the cost of $110 or upgrading to an BE Phenom ii X4 rig at no cost. Would upgrading to sandy bridge fix my bottlenecking issues or would I be better off with a Phenom ii X4 @ 4ghz?
Phenom II X4 @4GHz is still slower than stock Core i5 2500(K).
Deneb architecture is already old (2 and half years since released) and thus not comparable to fresh chip like Sandy Bridge.
Sandy Bridge architecture seems very good in many games algorithm. You should know that Core i5 2500 can outperform Core i7 990X in games (but not in multithreaded application).
Upgrading to Sandy Bridge not only boost your performance but also lower your power consumption quite noticeable compared to 4GHz Phenom II X4.
If you plan to stick with AMD. Wait 2 or 3 months for Bulldozer to come out.
1GHz Turbo Core will come in handy for gaming.
    
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I should be selling my AMD rig around August, if there's no bulldozer benchies by then, I'm going until. While I love AMD, I hate seeing such horrible minimum's when I play games like GTA4 and Crysis.
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At the risk of brusing my ego --- I agree with the "Go Sandy Bridge" comments. Phenom 2 is great for the price in many situations (price of the whole platform - Cheap CPU, Cheaper Motherboards, 2 stick RAM rather than 3 stick) ---- but if its only going to cost you 110 to make the whole transitions - then by hell do it! You MAY (big MAY) regret jumping from AMD when Bulldozer comes out - and Im not 100%, but most good 890 Chipset motherboards can be BIOS updated to AM3+ - so when Bulldozer hits, you wouldnt possibly even need a new motherboard.

of course, those are a lot of "ifs" and "maybes" - all while the sandy bridge gain is a sure thing. I'll also throw a bit of "walking back" here and say even though you will get more FPS outa a sandy bridge in most situations, its not like you will be able to use your eyes and SEE the difference --- unless your phenom is holding you back below like 24-30fps in some games? Sandy Bridge will be better on paper than your Phenom - it will perform better in the real world - it will bench mark better - and if its only 110 dollars --- my vote is GO FOR IT!
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post #6 of 9
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When it comes to gaming, my Phenom ii X4 seems to be doing fell in most games but there are a few that just refuse to run well. Mainly GTA4 and Crysis, games which I just love playing, any other game it mostly uses roughly 80% of my GPU. It's just frustrating to know that my cpu can't bring out the most of my video card. :B
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I understand that kind of frustration. I often, mentally (because really, it ptobably only exists in my head lol) blame the game's programmers for either messing up optimizations or favoring an architecture. Its like - my CPU can run NEWER, More Intensive games -- but your 3 year old piece of fail game can't run right. The CPU ain't at fault here! Darn you developer!

But then I take a chill pill and play something else / deal with it / lower settings that seem to have CPU limits a bit. Then the world moves on and I'm fairly satisfied...
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Originally Posted by Ayekalooter View Post
I understand that kind of frustration. I often, mentally (because really, it ptobably only exists in my head lol) blame the game's programmers for either messing up optimizations or favoring an architecture. Its like - my CPU can run NEWER, More Intensive games -- but your 3 year old piece of fail game can't run right. The CPU ain't at fault here! Darn you developer!

But then I take a chill pill and play something else / deal with it / lower settings that seem to have CPU limits a bit. Then the world moves on and I'm fairly satisfied...
Ahahha, me too
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post #9 of 9
With a stock clock 2500k, You would see big gains in some games over that amd cpu you have. Going from a 955 @ 3.8 to a 2500k at stock clocks, I gained 25fps in the one game i play. That was also with going from a 5870 to a 460 768.
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