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post #1 of 19
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Hey everyone, new rig set up last night, here are the specs:

Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 -M Pro Rev 3.0
CPU: i5 2500K
RAM: 2x4GB G.SKILL Ripjaws F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL
GPU: EVGA GTX 560 Ti
PSU: ANTEC EarthWatts 750W
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s
SSD: Corsair Nova 32 GB SATA II
CPU Fan: Thermaltake Frio
DVD: Lite-On 24 X iHAS424-98 DVD

For an unknown reason, and after 12 hours of almost consistent searching and attempts to fix, my new rig simply reboots often when loading Windows.

PC is fine in the BIOS and in Memtest, etc. but as soon as I go to install Windows off the CD-Drive, it randomly reboots (as if someone pulled out the power cable, but some LEDs on Mobo stay on to signal there is power available). No beeps, no error messages. Just a reboot.

The one time I was lucky enough to get Windows 7 installed, it continued to reboot constantly. So I don't feel like it is my CD-Drive. I have also run some DOS program that came with my Mobo off a CD and that didn't crash, so it doesn't seem to be the fact that there is a CD drive in that is screwing with it. I also attempted to install Vista and the same thing happened, so I doubt it is software related.

Temps are all low when given by Speccy/BIOS but Speedfan reported CPU at 92 Celsius. Quick Googling showed this was a common issue with the ASUS P8P67 -M Pro so I'm not too convinced that is an issue.

Even with both the solid state and hard drive disconnected from power, when showing the Windows Install process, it still crashed.

Voltages all seem fine and everything appears to be securely connected.
The problem is seemingly either PSU related or Mobo related, I believe. But I'm still skeptical that it is a CPU problem. It doesn't make any different noises before powering down, it just shuts off with the rest of the system. I've also tried plugging in everything I can to draw power (plugging in two very large monitors, for example) and unplugging unnecessary and that doesn't change anything. Still didn't boot off in the BIOS and it still turned off at some point into Windows.

Side note: Everything does "turn off" when rebooting. When restarting, if I recall, fans and all that would stay on, but this is not the case. Just wanted to clarify that.

I wish I could get a picture of the temperatures and all that, but they are all low. CPU and Mobo were both around 23 Celsius.

EDIT: Things I have tried. Disabling PLL Voltages and Power on Using PCI-e which apparently can cause booting issues. Neither of those helped. My RAM also was set to use 1.65V, though they were reporting only needing 1.5V. I set the DRAM voltage to 1.5V yet that didn't change anything.
post #2 of 19
Okay, I want to see how fast this situation will be solved since Gigabyte is catching so much heat for their boot-loop problems. I strongly recommend you to ask the people in this thread http://www.overclock.net/intel-mothe...7-p8z68-v.html
There's good support in that thread
post #3 of 19
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Thank you for pointing that out. I will do so after I finish these next tests.
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Okay, I want to see how fast this situation will be solved since Gigabyte is catching so much heat for their boot-loop problems. I strongly recommend you to ask the people in this thread http://www.overclock.net/intel-mothe...7-p8z68-v.html
There's good support in that thread
This has nothing to do with boot-cycle-looping bugs. this happens when he install windows, and even after it is installed.

This may be a faulty motherboard or a bad PSU.
    
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This has nothing to do with boot-cycle-looping bugs. this happens when he install windows, and even after it is installed.

This may be a faulty motherboard or a bad PSU.
Any idea (other than replacing the PSU) to tell which? Any symptoms at all that would kind of lean me one way or the other? I don't have a strong enough PSU on hand for testing and I would hate to have to send in both (but I can if that seems like it is the only option available).
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Any idea (other than replacing the PSU) to tell which? Any symptoms at all that would kind of lean me one way or the other? I don't have a strong enough PSU on hand for testing and I would hate to have to send in both (but I can if that seems like it is the only option available).
You are using the two Blue RAM slots? In my P8P67 PRO it is recommended to use those when two sticks, and not the black ones.

If you are, have you tried using only one mem stick?
    
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You are using the two Blue RAM slots? In my P8P67 PRO it is recommended to use those when two sticks, and not the black ones.

If you are, have you tried using only one mem stick?
Yea, it could be the RAM. Take out one RAM stick, test. It that doesn't work, try the other RAM stick, still no? Then it's not a RAM problem.
    
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You are using the two Blue RAM slots? In my P8P67 PRO it is recommended to use those when two sticks, and not the black ones.

If you are, have you tried using only one mem stick?
I am using the two blue RAM slots. Funny you mentioned that, because I forgot to. When I first booted up, it was giving me RAM issues with two sticks, and after trying every configuration with both, I decided to give up and install Windows the first time. After that, (I was still facing reboot issues then) I threw the other stick of RAM in and it worked.

I have since tried removing one of the sticks of RAM and seeing if it would not reboot that way, but it still does. I was suspicious of RAM for a while, but if Memtests are running okay and it detects both sticks, I figured the issue would be elsewhere. Any other tests I can do to the RAM? Should the DRAM blink upon powering down if they are faulty?
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I am using the two blue RAM slots. Funny you mentioned that, because I forgot to. When I first booted up, it was giving me RAM issues with two sticks, and after trying every configuration with both, I decided to give up and install Windows the first time. After that, (I was still facing reboot issues then) I threw the other stick of RAM in and it worked.

I have since tried removing one of the sticks of RAM and seeing if it would not reboot that way, but it still does. I was suspicious of RAM for a while, but if Memtests are running okay and it detects both sticks, I figured the issue would be elsewhere. Any other tests I can do to the RAM? Should the DRAM blink upon powering down if they are faulty?
memtest for DOS will not always reveal unstable RAM configuration. It will reveal faulty mem, but not always find if it's stable.

Go into bios and set your mem timings manual, according to spec. If Command Rate is at Auto, it could be running at 1t. And that can cause problems for some RAM. Set it to 2t.

According to GSKILL you're RAM is rated at Command Rate 2t. It says '2N' but I believe it is Command Rate http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=239
Edited by turrican9 - 6/18/11 at 9:32am
    
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post #10 of 19
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Originally Posted by turrican9 View Post
memtest for DOS will not always reveal unstable RAM configuration. It will reveal faulty mem, but not always find if it's stable.

Go into bios and set your mem timings manual, according to spec. If Command Rate is at Auto, it could be running at 1t. And that can cause problems for some RAM. Set it to 2t.

According to GSKILL you're RAM is rated at Command Rate 2t. It says '2N' but I believe it is Command Rate http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=239
I actually was just messing with those a couple hours ago. I wasn't sure about the 2N on details, but I'll give it a go.
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