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post #1 of 42
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First and foremost I want to say hello to the overclock community. I'm brand spanking new here...

I'm looking to upgrade from my HD5850 to something better, but I'm a little confused on a couple of points.

I bought a Gateway fx6831 a little over a year ago and just found out that because its a pre-build, my BIOS is locked and I'm unable to overclock my i7 860 @ 2.8 (Knowing what I know now i would've NEVER bought pre-built and would have did it myself, where's Doc when you need him )

1. Is it worth upgrading my GPU at all or would my CPU bottleneck my performance? (Searched Google and read conflicting stuff regarding bottle-necking)

2. If upgrading is possible, should i buy a 6970 or 580 now or wait until the new cards come out and get one of those? (Have no idea when the new cards will be released, and if it'll make that much of a difference)

This is my first computer and just started really studying up on PC's for about 3 months. Looking to learn as much as I can, kind of infatuated with PC's now.
Thanks in advance guys!
post #2 of 42
You can upgrade that HD5850 and the CPU is still good for newer GPUs.

It depends on the games you play if you want to upgrade. I mean, I am just waiting when BF3 comes out and then I will upgrade then.
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I'm also just waiting for the specs to be released for Battlefield 3 before i throw money at a new GPU. I would have just CF two 5850 but my motherboard doesn't support CF or SLI, only has one x16 slot.
post #4 of 42
HELLO! I'm new as well to OCN, but I read your interesting post and couldn't help but notice that you seem to be between a rock and a hard place. Here are a few of your options, and why they may seem like a tough call. First, no doubt if you overclocked the 860 you'd really open up even the graphics card you currently have. But the only way you're going to overclock THAT processor, is with a new board, and I can't in good conscience tell you to purchase one, as socket 1156 has already been replaced. Granted this doesn't mean that your hardware is bad by any stretch of imagination, and with the right 1156 board and a decent overclock, you could definitely get 2+ years out of your current setup. Overclocked I could see justifying a new graphics card as well. But the very personal question that you have to ask yourself, is if it's worth your time/money/effort to buy a new board, re-install windows, overclock. VS. Selling it for what you can, and doing a completely custom component build based on something like a 2500 or 2600k 1155 Platform.
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post #5 of 42
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@Ownithopter It's funny because that was going to be my third question, whether i should buy a new mobo, os, and card to overclock my 860 or just sell it and put it towards building a new rig. So your saying my CPU would hold back performance and it wouldn't make sense to just buy a new GPU for now?
post #6 of 42
Your card is still good, you don't actually NEED to upgrade.

But if you do want to upgrade, no will not see some serious bottleneck.

Bottleneck is overrated mostly and used too often.
A huge bottleneck would be getting something like some old athlon dual core 2.5ghz and 5850 and 17'' monitor.
Meaning you would get bad framerates because your cpu is not giving enough information for graphic card to process so it doesn't even work at 50%.

The bottleneck is unavoidable in each and every case, there will alway be some kind of bottleneck be it gpu or cpu.

In your case, no, you will be fine if you get something in the range of 480 with that processor, and that would give you a nice performance boost in games.
Slight bottleneck will be present but not too noticeable.

For your next upgrade i would however choose a new motherboard and overclock that cpu as far as it goes.
Do keep in mind that when you do get into overclocking you will also need a new cpu cooler which will allow you for a good overclock.
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post #7 of 42
you could sell the motherboard and get a new one if your case is decent. Overclock the graphics card and cpu, and if you need more speed than that, then snag a used 5850 maybe. the 6xxx series isnt that much better, and with 2 5850's you'd get higher framerates in games that support crossfire/sli than any single gpu card out right now.

The only reason I went from a 5850 to 6950 was cus I got it for stupid cheap.
post #8 of 42
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@Ownithopter It's funny because that was going to be my third question, whether i should buy a new mobo, os, and card to overclock my 860 or just sell it and put it towards building a new rig. So your saying my CPU would hold back performance and it wouldn't make sense to just buy a new GPU for now?
Given that you're at stock, I'd have to say yes, at this time with your current setup, I personally believe that even if you went to something like a 6970 that you would be dissatisfied with the nominal increase in frames from the 5850. Definitely wouldn't be worth the 3-400 dollars at stock clocks.
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post #9 of 42
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Just read that the 1156 sockets are in fact on the way out, so investing in a new 1156 mobo might be a step backwards as it would only cause me to invest in another motherboard should i upgrade my CPU in the future. Not gonna lie, I'm kind of confused at the moment lol
post #10 of 42
unfortunately i have to dissagree with ownithopter

you will get a nice gain upgrading from 5850 to 480
how much depends on games you play

however i myself since i like most people ain't growing money on trees i would recommend overclocking you gpu and see how that turns out

upgrading a whole system is a costly procedure

depending on how much you are willing to spend and when is your next upgrade

if however you can sell your current system for nice price, than that is a good option, sell it whole and get yourself a whole brand new pc.

i have so much to say, but don't know where to start, so i'll keep it short and reply to any questions you have...
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