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I stopped taking you seriously when you said good business means getting patents.
Umm read what i said. I said i consider Apple a good business even tho they have a bad fetish of running to the patent office....reading a lost ability now?

I have person gripes with Apple but atleast they have some creativity and inovation
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How about having to endure internet explorer for ******* years until google chrome and Firefox was released because MS drove Netcape out of business and IE was "packaged" into Windows and the average user had no other choice but to use IE.

HOw about the fact that Windows was the same damn OS vomited over and over again for over a decade. Lets not remember the horror stories of Millenium and Vista. If not for Mac OS popularity increase, small but visible, how much longer would we have had to wait for Windows 7 (best OS MS has made since '98).

When there is lack of competition THERE IS NO INCENTIVE. Customers have no choice. As long as their are companies like Microsoft there will always be a need for someone "to step in".
Damn right!
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I can't believe everyone is ok with Microsoft purchasing Skype.

Think Games for Windows or Windows Live Messenger... Both are horrible products... Skype is at least half decent. Just wait till MS decides to re-engineer Skype to support Windows Cloud BS, games and all sorts of other worthless horse****.

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HOw about the fact that Windows was the same damn OS vomited over and over again for over a decade. Lets not remember the horror stories of Millenium, XP and Vista.
Fixed it for you.

XP was a consumer nightmare when it was released... people have such selective memories...
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HOw about the fact that Windows was the same damn OS vomited over and over again for over a decade. Lets not remember the horror stories of Millenium and Vista. If not for Mac OS popularity increase, small but visible, how much longer would we have had to wait for Windows 7 (best OS MS has made since '98).
I happened to think XP and Windows 7 were excellent operating systems. When Microsoft released Vista it didn't sell nearly as well as XP had now did it? They still have plenty of reason to make good operating systems, otherwise people will simply skip it and wait for the next one like happened with Vista.

Also, they gained control of the market because their operating system was BETTER. It was not because they used shady tactics or anything like that. The Sherman Antitrust Act was not meant to punish businesses that gained control over the market passively, only businesses that intentionally dominate the market through misconduct.

If you don't like Skype, there are still plenty of other options and there is absolutely nothing stopping you from using something else. If Skype truly is the best option out there though, you have nothing to complain about in the first place.

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How about having to endure internet explorer for ******* years until google chrome and Firefox was released because MS drove Netcape out of business and IE was "packaged" into Windows and the average user had no other choice but to use IE.
You just said it right there. As soon as software that was BETTER than their's was released, people began to use it. Therefore, there was nothing stopping somebody from creating a superior product and taking a chunk out of their market share. This is a perfect display of capitalism. How in the hell is that a monopoly? Internet Explorer is a bad product and it continues to lose popularity. Microsoft is trying very hard to gain that market share back. They are failing, but they still have to face competition.

If Netscape was that much better to use and if Internet Explorer was that terrible of software people wouldn't have used it anymore. People were using the software that was most convenient for them. They weren't the first company in the world to bundle two products together, it is not intentionally dominating the market through misconduct therefore they should NOT be punished.
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Umm read what i said. I said i consider Apple a good business even tho they have a bad fetish of running to the patent office....reading a lost ability now?

I have person gripes with Apple but atleast they have some creativity and inovation
Grammar a lost ability is more like it. Hard to understand what you're even saying when you type in terribly broken English. That's like me going up to somebody and talking in 1337 then expecting them to be able to understand it.
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I can't believe everyone is ok with Microsoft purchasing Skype.

Think Games for Windows or Windows Live Messenger... Both are horrible products... Skype is at least half decent. Just wait till MS decides to re-engineer Skype to support Windows Cloud BS, games and all sorts of other worthless horse****.



Fixed it for you.

XP was a consumer nightmare when it was released... people have such selective memories...
GFWL is a horrible product since MS wasn't making enough of a push, but they want to do that now, so it's too early to say that. MSN is a great program for what it is meant for, people are just extremely biased due to Microsoft owning it.
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I happened to think XP and Windows 7 were excellent operating systems. When Microsoft released Vista it didn't sell nearly as well as XP had now did it?
When they released XP people were complaining how horribly it performed (most machines it was initially installed on barely met system requirements, just like when Vista was released), how it was full of bloatware, and the first service pack ended up trashing many people's systems. Also many businesses plain refused to buy XP and decided to stick with their Win95, NT4, W2K machines. Many people said they would never install it and that it was unnecessary. I guess you weren't around when it came out.

I was an early adopter of both XP and Vista. Then again, I've always had comparatively high end gear so I've never had the problems many others have.


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MSN was a great program for what it is meant for, people are just extremely biased due to Microsoft owning it.
Fixed it for you. I was quite happy with most of the versions before they changed it to Windows Live Messenger...
Edited by xenophobe - 6/19/11 at 12:37pm
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Fixed it for you. I was quite happy with most of the versions before they changed it to Windows Live Messenger...
And guess what? You can use the older versions if you aren't happy with newer ones.
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And guess what? You can use the older versions if you aren't happy with newer ones.
Since when? The earliest version of Live I can use is Essentials 2009. None of the earlier versions of Messenger works anymore.
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