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So I'm in a bind. I have a problem with temps with my new build. When I open the case panel, I get great temps; though it defeats the purpose of dust filters.

Refer to my build log in my sig to see the puter and pictures.

Options:

-Keep the puter case with the panel off.
-Get a new case and a new WC loop.
-Other options?!
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post #2 of 26
So how bad are your temps to say you have a problem? that looks like enough rad area that you shouldn't have problems unless you're using very very slow fans.
That said, there's a lot of heat to dissipate there. :/

You could split your big loop into two smaller loops if something in particular is running hot, or you could use faster fans if you're using slow ones.

Edit: Just saw you've got three 580s in there, I read two the first time so I was surprised you even had a problem.
800RPM fans wouldn't cut it with that much heat being dumped into your loop.
Edited by Mike-IRL - 6/18/11 at 7:11pm
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have you considered better fans?

The GT Stealth isnt the best radiator to be paired up with quiet fans.
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Your probably going to need bigger rads (two 360's) with a setup like that which means you need a bigger case. Take a look at Case Labs here on OCN. They make great cases for watercooling and are decently priced. I plan to pick up one soon.
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With ambients @ 20c I get 50's for the GPU's and 80's with the CPU.

With the panel open, I get no higher than high 40's on all components. So the fans work well with the rads if they are fed plenty of fresh air. The problem occures when I close the side panel. The front rad is in a pull config with the 200mm, as I have no other air intake options on the case. I had put the 200mm after the 140.2 (with res and pump in between) to get the air as cool as I could coming into the case. The 200mm however seems to be insufficient in terms of CFM as I'm getting negative air pressure inside the case.
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Your probably going to need bigger rads (two 360's) with a setup like that which means you need a bigger case. Take a look at Case Labs here on OCN. They make great cases for watercooling and are decently priced. I plan to pick up one soon.
A 200mm rad is approximately equal in area to a triple 120 and if you add in the other rads he's got more than the equivalent of double 360 rads.
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With ambients @ 20c I get 50's for the GPU's and 80's with the CPU.

With the panel open, I get no higher than high 40's on all components. So the fans work well with the rads if they are fed plenty of fresh air. The problem occures when I close the side panel. The front rad is in a pull config with the 200mm, as I have no other air intake options on the case. I had put the 200mm after the 140.2 (with res and pump in between) to get the air as cool as I could coming into the case. The 200mm however seems to be insufficient in terms of CFM as I'm getting negative air pressure inside the case.
It could also be that the air from the 200mm rad is fairly saturated with heat and then it's being pushed through the other rads and not cooling as efficiently as if they had room temperature air. There's a lot of restriction as well though so high static pressure fans would help big-time.

Edit: double-post, my bad :/
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Your probably going to need bigger rads (two 360's) with a setup like that which means you need a bigger case. Take a look at Case Labs here on OCN. They make great cases for watercooling and are decently priced. I plan to pick up one soon.

Yeah My current idea of a new build would be an M8 with the Mac-100 pedestal. The pedestal would house two 420 AMS (copper ones) and the case would house one AMS 120.3 rad on top (copper again). I would be using 140mm NB for the bottom two, and some 120 MF's from NB within the case.

But that's like 2-3k right there as I live in Canada.
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A 200mm rad is approximately equal in area to a triple 120 and if you add in the other rads he's got more than the equivalent of double 360 rads.
only if the thickness is preserved.. and if u use the same fan on that radiator.

Which means in real world practice, no... a 200mm rad is never better then a even a single 120x3 with excellent fans.

im also willing to even bet my PA160 can beat a phobya 200mm, but both would get slaughtered by a PA120.3



Ummm op, to me it sounds like u dont got proper air flow... or your pulling warm air from the rad.
is it getting fresh air from outside and then into the rad? or you pulling air from the case into the rad and out?
Edited by NaeKuh - 6/18/11 at 7:25pm
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only if the thickness is preserved.. and if u use the same fan on that radiator.

Which means in real world practice, no... a 200mm rad is never better then a even a single 120x3 with excellent fans.

im also willing to even bet my PA160 can beat a phobya 200mm, but both would get slaughtered by a PA120.3



Ummm op, to me it sounds like u dont got proper air flow... or your pulling warm air from the rad.
is it getting fresh air from outside and then into the rad? or you pulling air from the case into the rad and out?

The air comes through the phobya into the case with the NZXT 200mm fan.

Here's the loop order

Res/MCP655 > 200mm Rad > GTX580 > GTX 580 > GTX 580 > MCP655 > 120.1 rad > CPU > 140.2 rad > res

So the water is cooled by the 140.2 first, then to the res and into the 200 right after.
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