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So I was interested about trying out a water cooling system and noticed some things imediately that didnt seem right. The main thing is pumps. Why are they so expensive? People seem to recommend the mcp350, but it costs $55 I mean small pumps shouldn't cost this much. Can't I just use say a pump like this

which are only $15. Both of them are small, run on 12v, and have what seems like plenty of flow rate. Is there something I'm missing here that makes the $55 pump so good? Also are their any pumps that are built into the cpu block like the h70's have because that would be a nice space saver and would eliminate some extra couplings and tubing.
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post #2 of 10
Thread Starter 
http://www.pondfilter.com/ALPINE-PUMP-P120.aspx this was supposed to be up there too
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post #3 of 10
That pump you linked is intended to pump water for small decorative water features, it would be horrible in a WC system because it is not capable of moving much water against a restriction, like a water block.

The pump is the heart of any water cooling system, don't cheap out on it.

I went the opposite of cheap, 2x MCP35x pumps(about $100 each) in series, so if one fails my system still works until I get a replacement.
My system is running under full GPU and CPU load 24/7, so having some redundancy is important to me.
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post #4 of 10
Look in the for sale section MCP350 for $35 shipped.
    
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post #5 of 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Somenamehere;13923486 
Look in the for sale section MCP350 for $35 shipped.

http://www.overclock.net/cooling-products/898129-mcp350-pumps-ddc-1-35-shipped.html
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post #6 of 10
Someone looking for a pump maverick?
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post #7 of 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by bmaverick View Post
Someone looking for a pump maverick?
LOL
     
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post #8 of 10
Thread Starter 
so how much psi would it need? im pretty sure a cpu waterblock is not considered a very restrictive circuit
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post #9 of 10
What do you mean by ' how much psi would it need? '?
If you are just running a rad + cpu block that pump is fine. smile.gif
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CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
hwlabs gtx120 hwlabs gts 360 xflow ek fc5870 nickel+acetalx3 changes 
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crap model m, 6gv2, k95, wasd, code v2, model f Changes MM 
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post #10 of 10
Use a BMaverick DDC-1T pump. It's cheap and is designed for water-cooling PC systems. You're gonna find a better deal for a proper pump.
     
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RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
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EK Supreme HF XSPC RC360 XSPC DDC Reservoir EK-FC6990 - EN (Nickel) 
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